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08:32:49AsteroidBot[asteroid-settings] weblate pushed 1 commit(s) to master: https://git.io/v974U
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09:33:28OberhorstHey guys! I am looking for a smartwatch that is privacy friendly. I found out about this awesome project! Do you have an idea when it will be reliable enough to work as a daily driver? Thanks!
10:56:50SylvieLorxuI personally already use it as a daily driver. There's no app store or anything so you're stuck with the default system apps but it works fine for me and does all I want it to do
10:57:27SylvieLorxuIt depends on what kind of person you are if it's ready enough for you already, really
11:01:00OberhorstThanks for your answer! I read about what it can do, but I heard bluetooth is not working stable. So do you always get the notifications? And can you control the music of your phone with the music app? And is the calender linked to the calendar in the android device?
11:03:40SylvieLorxuBluetooth works fine on my device and I would honestly recommend running a nightly over the stable anyway. Notifications work reliably for me, music app works fine too, calendar is not linked
11:04:25SylvieLorxuI am not sure if Bluetooth works in nightlies on all supported models or not
11:10:00Oberhorstthanks, which one are you using and I couldnt find the place to download the nightlies or do you build them yourself
11:10:13OberhorstI mean which device are you using
11:12:29SylvieLorxuDory (aka LG G Watch, probably the cheapest supported watch too). Nightlies are on https://release.asteroidos.org/ I believe
11:13:57Oberhorstwhy did you choose asteroids? privacy issues too? or is the g watch os too bad?
11:15:58SylvieLorxuI wanted a watch that was mine, not designed by Google to collect even more data on you. So yeah, that and it being Free Software so I can hack on things if I want to
11:17:05SylvieLorxuI mostly bought a watch for it to see if I could contribute to the project because I find it important to have more choices than evil megacorp A, B or C
11:19:15Oberhorstyeah, I think the same way but unfortunately not too many... I hope AsteriodOS will get as known and as supported as Lineage or other mods soon
11:20:46SylvieLorxuWho knows, AsteroidOS has been constantly growing. Still a bit slow but it'll probably keep getting better. Out of curiosity, how did you find the project?
11:23:46OberhorstI read about it some months ago in some news feed that it got an alpha version. Yesterday my parents gave me a gift coupon for a smartwatch so I started looking again and found this project again ;) I also have privacy concerns about sending everything to google or some other company so I run my android without google and want to do the same with a
11:23:46Oberhorst smartwatch
11:32:22SylvieLorxuOn that note AsteroidOS Sync works fine on Android without Google Play and is on F-Droid
11:34:22SylvieLorxuOh, this page is useful: https://asteroidos.org/wiki/porting-status/
11:36:38Oberhorstthanks a lot!
11:37:16OberhorstI read about 10% battery drain per hour, how is yours?
11:38:09SylvieLorxuI had about 12.5 hour battery life on stable, about 30 or more on nightly
11:38:44SylvieLorxuWould very much recommend running a nightly if only for that
11:40:27Oberhorstyeah, sounds like it had evolved a lot the last 5 months after the alpha
11:48:43OberhorstI haven't seen an app for step counting or heart rate (don't need it, just curious) :)
12:06:36SylvieLorxuThere isn't one
12:07:04SylvieLorxuNot sure what sensors each watch has and how possible it is
12:07:39SylvieLorxuI like not having a heart rate app. Don't need to be reminded I'm not fine :P
12:09:21Oberhorst;)
12:48:19AsteroidBot[unofficial-watchfaces] anyc created fork https://git.io/v97ag
13:14:52AsteroidBot[unofficial-watchfaces] anyc opened Pull Request #1 added 001-analog-precision (master -> master): https://git.io/v97VH
13:16:10kidoanYc: you said updateFrequency: WallClock.Second had no impact on battery life, right?
13:16:39kidocan you also PR your shadow fix to asteroid-launcher
13:16:48AsteroidBot[unofficial-watchfaces] anyc created comment on Issue #1 added 001-analog-precision https://git.io/v97Vd
13:19:00anYckido: I didn't notice an impact, yes. If it's not urgent, yes - enough QML/JS madness for today ;)
13:19:19kidoalright :)
13:21:52AsteroidBot[unofficial-watchfaces] FlorentRevest created comment on Issue #1 added 001-analog-precision https://git.io/v97wk
13:21:55AsteroidBot[unofficial-watchfaces] FlorentRevest merged Pull Request #1 added 001-analog-precision (master -> master): https://git.io/v97VH
13:21:55AsteroidBot[unofficial-watchfaces] FlorentRevest pushed 2 commit(s) to master: https://git.io/v97wI
13:21:56AsteroidBotanyc: added 001-analog-precision (https://git.io/v97wL)
13:21:56AsteroidBotFlorent Revest: Merge pull request #1 from anyc/master (https://git.io/v97wt)
13:23:02AsteroidBot[asteroid-launcher] FlorentRevest pushed 1 commit(s) to master: https://git.io/v97wm
13:23:03AsteroidBotFlorent Revest: MainScreen: Update WallClock every second for watchfaces that require this precision (https://git.io/v97wY)
13:40:39anYckido: I still have the screenshot of the watchface, shall I add it too? Might be helpful if the repo is not included
13:41:33kidoyes, could you include it in the README.md just as in https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid-wallpapers ?
13:57:21AsteroidBot[unofficial-watchfaces] anyc opened Pull Request #2 add watchface preview and remove obsolete instruction in analog-precision (master -> master): https://git.io/v97ra
13:57:33anYckido: I hope the thumbnail will show up right
13:58:20AsteroidBot[unofficial-watchfaces] FlorentRevest merged Pull Request #2 add watchface preview and remove obsolete instruction in analog-precision (master -> master): https://git.io/v97ra
13:58:20AsteroidBot[unofficial-watchfaces] FlorentRevest pushed 3 commit(s) to master: https://git.io/v97rV
13:58:21AsteroidBotanyc: add a watchface preview to the README (https://git.io/v97rw)
13:58:21AsteroidBotanyc: remove obsolete instruction (https://git.io/v97rr)
13:58:21AsteroidBotFlorent Revest: Merge pull request #2 from anyc/master (https://git.io/v97ro)
13:58:42kidothank you! :)
13:59:11anYcah, it's a bit large
13:59:19kidoit's ok
14:00:10anYc:)
14:16:28labelettekido, SylvieLorxu: excuse me yesterday I had to leave.. same issue on the version you sent me SylvieLorxu... I can connect to adb it is the only improvment against 11th May build, bluetooth is still on OFF impossible to make it work and I can see this on journalctl -u patchram --no-page
14:16:33labeletteMay 06 19:23:47 dory systemd[1]: Starting Load firmware into BCM20715A1 bluetooth chip...
14:16:35labeletteMay 06 19:23:48 dory systemd[1]: Started Load firmware into BCM20715A1 bluetooth chip
14:20:37SylvieLorxuWeird, bluetooth works just fine for me on that build
14:20:52kidowhat does hciconfig say?
14:21:17labelettehciconfig hci0
14:21:18labeletteCan't get device info: No such device
14:21:27kidorfkill list ?
14:21:48SylvieLorxuI think I used settings to toggle it though, not the quick toggles, but please focus on helping kido properly fix this instead of trying my workaround
14:22:50labelette0: brcm_Bluetooth_rfkill: Bluetooth
14:22:50labelette Soft blocked: no
14:22:50labelette Hard blocked: no
14:22:58labeletteSylvieLorxu: yes I tried both
14:23:24kidojournalctl -u bluetooth --no-pager
14:24:31labeletteMay 06 19:23:49 dory systemd[1]: Starting Bluetooth service...
14:24:32labeletteMay 06 19:23:50 dory bluetoothd[440]: Bluetooth daemon 5.41
14:24:32labeletteMay 06 19:23:50 dory systemd[1]: Started Bluetooth service.
14:24:32labeletteMay 06 19:23:50 dory bluetoothd[440]: Bluetooth management interface 1.9 initialized
14:25:32SylvieLorxuThe last logs are from May 6th?
14:27:09labeletteyep the clock has not been synchronized yet
14:27:36labeletteas bluetooth is not working so when I boot the watch it got a default time
14:27:55SylvieLorxuAh, okay
14:28:01labeletteI didnt change it yet as I try to understand the bluetooth issue :(
14:31:00labelettejust in cas I am rebooting it
14:32:17labelettebluetooth on :$ :$
14:32:29labelettemy phone is not finding it
14:33:29labelettebluetoothctl
14:33:31labelette[NEW] Controller 20:70:02:A0:1F:AC dory [default]
14:33:42SylvieLorxuIt may be the phone app? I have to force-kill the Android app a lot to make it find it
14:35:29*kidohas a wrist vibrating with ffmemless. once.
14:42:43SylvieLorxuWhat's a "memory loss device" even?
14:44:34kidodoesn't remember previous state?
14:45:22SylvieLorxuStill a bit vague to me but I guess I have a vague idea then
15:51:16AsteroidBot[asteroid-alarmclock] FlorentRevest pushed 1 commit(s) to master: https://git.io/v97PP
15:51:17AsteroidBotFlorent Revest: AlarmDialog: Use ngfd to vibrate on an alarm event (https://git.io/v97PX)
15:51:24AsteroidBot[asteroid-alarmclock] weblate pushed 2 commit(s) to master: https://git.io/v97P1
15:51:24AsteroidBotMateusz Ruminski: Translated using Weblate (Polish) (https://git.io/v97PM)
15:51:25AsteroidBotWeblate: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' (https://git.io/v97PD)
15:55:23AsteroidBot[meta-bass-hybris] FlorentRevest pushed 2 commit(s) to master: https://git.io/v97PF
15:55:24AsteroidBotFlorent Revest: linux-bass: msm_pwm_vibrator: Convert timed output APIs to ff_memless input APIs (https://git.io/v97Pb)
15:55:24AsteroidBotFlorent Revest: ngfd, qtfeedback: Disable usage of droid backends (https://git.io/v97PN)
16:15:19AsteroidBot[supported-languages] FlorentRevest pushed 3 commit(s) to master: https://git.io/v97XD
16:15:19AsteroidBotFlorent Revest: Add finnish (https://git.io/v97XS)
16:15:19AsteroidBotFlorent Revest: Add kabyle (https://git.io/v97X9)
16:15:19AsteroidBotFlorent Revest: Add tamil (https://git.io/v97XH)
16:17:50kidolabelette: by the way, still no vibrations on notifications?
16:42:47labeletteSylvieLorxu: I confirm to you that I needed to kill multiple time asteroidos sync to be able to see the watch :)
16:43:08labelettekido: yeaaaaaah :):) working ! very short but working :)
16:43:13kidonice :)
16:43:30kidowith backport of the new ffmemless patch from bass to dory it should work just fine
16:43:38labeletteSylvieLorxu, kido: now I am writting down the battery drain to compare with the previous version..
16:44:21AsteroidBot[meta-dory-hybris] FlorentRevest created comment on Issue #5 Notifications don't vibrate https://git.io/v97Me
16:44:21AsteroidBot[meta-dory-hybris] FlorentRevest closed Issue #5 Notifications don't vibrate: https://git.io/v9GfW
16:44:29labelettekido: another working thing is time synchronisation it is nice :)
16:49:26labelettebtw, testing the different issues I opened it seems that I got the same issue for alarm snooze not working and not vibrating for alarm when the watch is in mute but I think it is what you explained to me yesterday where you were working on it
16:49:42kidoyep
16:49:45kidothose are two different bugs
16:50:05kidoalarm snooze not working is kind of strange, it only happens when the alarm is triggered while asteroid-alarmclock was closed
16:50:17kidokeeping asteroid-alarmclock open "solves" the problem (I mean, it works)
16:50:25kidothis I don't know how to fix yet
16:50:47kidothe second problem with alarms not vibrating while in silent I wrote a patch for this and I am testing it at this very moment
16:52:33labelettekido: :) :) cool this sound great
16:55:22labeletteperhaps a stupid question, but would we be able to import an ics for calendar?
16:55:42kidoI have no plans for that for the stable 1.0
16:55:51SylvieLorxuI'd rather have it sync with Android
16:56:00SylvieLorxuThen you could always import an ICS into Android
16:56:13labeletteyep that's true
16:56:33kidohaving any sort of syncing available would definitely be cool but we already have enough featu... I mean, sources of problems, yet :)
16:56:45labelettejust thinking about ics as I am not using a stock version of android and there is no calendar I am using calendard from Fdroid
16:57:31labeletteyep make sens I agree that it would be worth to spend the dev effort to make everything working as expected for now and then adding more feature
16:58:12labeletteperhaps it is a good idea to track some features wish for bulding a roadmap where the people can vote and prioritize the future features accordindly?
16:58:47kidowell we kind of have some taks splitted on github issues and https://tree.taiga.io/project/florentrevest-asteroidos/kanban
16:59:09kidobut overall I often keep my nose on my whiteboard
16:59:38labelettewhiteboard? kanban?
16:59:42SylvieLorxuNo, I want more bugs^Wfeatures
16:59:47labeletteha yes ok I see on the link :)
17:01:15kidona, I tend to be old school and keep a whiteboard https://www.dropbox.com/home?preview=DSC_0666.JPG
17:01:31kidomeh, https://www.dropbox.com/s/7098ivvyj6blnjy/DSC_0666.JPG?dl=0
17:01:31SylvieLorxu"Please sign in or register to access this page."
17:01:51SylvieLorxuHuh wow
17:02:36kidoit gets wiped every once and a while
17:41:44AsteroidBot[meta-asteroid] FlorentRevest pushed 2 commit(s) to master: https://git.io/v97Sk
17:41:44AsteroidBot[asteroid-launcher] FlorentRevest closed Issue #17 Alarm Clock behavior: https://git.io/v9UbB
17:41:44AsteroidBotFlorent Revest: ngfd: Always vibrate on calendar and clock events. Closes https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid-lau... (https://git.io/v97SI)
17:41:44AsteroidBotFlorent Revest: ngfd: Load ffmemless (https://git.io/v97SL)
17:47:46anYcdory has a compass? interesting
17:48:05labelettekido: :) :) cool! will wait a nightly to test the alarm always on :) by the way speaking on nightlies any idea if my issue on bluetooth/adb/ssh access have been solve on recent nightlies? as the 11th build is KO for me but the 10th build SylvieLorxu sent me is ok..I suspect I would get the same issue with future version..
17:48:11kidoanYc: https://twitter.com/NielsTho/status/825339976401485825
17:48:31kidolabelette: but there are still problems with alarms not being triggered when the CPU is in deep sleep
17:50:28anYcthx. looks like the zw1 also had one
17:53:33labelettecompass is plan to be on dory soon? it is cool :)
17:53:44kidowell, it has already been supported for a while now
17:53:49kidosame thing with other sensors
17:54:01anYcah, asus finally offers the firmware and kernel source on their page
17:54:06kidosomeone started writing a compass app but it never got included because of inconsistent UI
17:54:24anYcfirmware binary and kernel source
17:54:35kidoso I'm waiting for compass mockups from the designers
17:54:54kidoanYc: cool :) weren't they available before?
17:56:09anYcno, I even wrote them and they said no. I needed the firmware because I screwed dm_verity of the original image when I mounted /system without -o ro
17:56:46kidook
17:56:47anYclooks like my watch will finally boot again without manual intervention ^^
18:01:51anYclol, no, the firmware file is actually a pdf that tells you to update the watch over the phone *sigh*
18:02:26anYcat least the kernel source package seems to be real
18:03:42anYcbut the git repos still have the old source
18:03:43kido:D
18:04:31AsteroidBot[asteroid-launcher] FlorentRevest pushed 1 commit(s) to master: https://git.io/v979n
18:04:31AsteroidBot[asteroid-launcher] FlorentRevest closed Issue #16 notification time is too short on the watch: https://git.io/v9Jo5
18:04:32AsteroidBotFlorent Revest: NotificationPreview: Use a longer timeout. Closes https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid-launcher/is... (https://git.io/v979c)
18:04:43anYcuh, there appeared a android-wear-6.0.1_r0.17 tag... o.o
18:06:30anYcah, got confused, it's just in the kernel repo
18:10:43anYckido: would you expect any benefits for asteroidos if we would be able to build a nougat /system for a watch?
18:11:52kidonop
18:12:23kidoI even see some cons with some compatibility layers (e.g: pulseaudio) not working anymore
18:13:12kidobut well, yes, this can be some kind of "r&d" to make sure asteroid's foundations stay future-proof
18:13:20anYcok thanks :) I was thinking about it for a second as the nougat wear branches are available
18:13:47anYcbut I should get mm to work first
18:13:56anYcall the HW I mean
18:14:12kidorigth
18:14:14kidoright*
18:33:15anYcnew feature: "Support algorithm of falling detection" - was hilft der uhr eine falling detection? o.O
18:36:18anYcops, why does a watch need a falling detection?
18:39:53kidoafaik, it's a big usage of wearable devices and iot for elderlies
18:40:46anYcah, thanks
18:59:39labeletteSylvieLorxu, kido, Oberhorst: still not enough data to test but seems very promising :) alpha used about 10% per hour, after (only) one hour I had 3% drain on nighly :) so if this will stay on the same level more or less I could expect about 30 hours...lets see! (bluetooth ON)
19:02:10SylvieLorxuanYc: To automatically void warranty?
19:37:15AsteroidBot[lipstick] FlorentRevest pushed 1 commit(s) to master: https://git.io/v97dj
19:37:15AsteroidBotFlorent Revest: Adds translations gathered from translate.sailfishos.org (https://git.io/v97Fe)
19:38:55AsteroidBot[lipstick] FlorentRevest force pushed 1 commit(s) to master: https://git.io/v97Ft
19:38:56AsteroidBotFlorent Revest: Adds translations gathered from translate.sailfishos.org (https://git.io/v97Fq)
19:43:20AsteroidBot[lipstick] Caballlero created fork https://git.io/v97FE
19:46:10anYcSylvieLorxu: ^^
19:46:47AsteroidBot[meta-asteroid] FlorentRevest pushed 1 commit(s) to master: https://git.io/v97Fy
19:46:48AsteroidBotFlorent Revest: lipstick: Install translation files (https://git.io/v97FS)
19:49:07AsteroidBot[asteroid] FlorentRevest closed Issue #22 // I do not find the string of word to translate: https://git.io/v9yMY
19:49:07AsteroidBot[asteroid] FlorentRevest created comment on Issue #22 // I do not find the string of word to translate https://git.io/v97Fp
20:25:38AsteroidBot[lipstick] Caballlero opened Pull Request #1 Update lipstick-es.ts (patch-1 -> master): https://git.io/v97AY
20:34:17AsteroidBot[asteroid] Caballlero created comment on Issue #22 // I do not find the string of word to translate https://git.io/v97AP
20:36:57AsteroidBot[lipstick] Caballlero edited Pull Request #1 Update lipstick-es.ts (patch-1 -> master): https://git.io/v97AY
21:40:49anYcI don't know if someone here has a zw3 but I added the different versions of the kernel source code on github as they are not available in the android kernel msm repo: https://github.com/anyc/zenwatch-3-kernel-source
21:45:39AsteroidBot[AsteroidOSSync] weblate pushed 1 commit(s) to master: https://git.io/v97jP
21:45:40AsteroidBotAndrea Cervesato: Translated using Weblate (Italian) (https://git.io/v97jX)
23:15:09kidothanks for sharing anYc