2015-10-20 10:55:31	@kido	hey :)
2015-10-20 10:55:44	Stskeeps	moo
2015-10-20 10:58:31	@kido	once again I'll talk about you Stskeeps ;) I already did a short presentation about libhybris in a local embedded linux meetup some months ago, and in the next month I'll give a talk about the asteroid's core architecture, I'll spend some time explaining what you did on libhybris
2015-10-20 10:58:37	Stskeeps	hehe
2015-10-20 11:00:32	Stskeeps	just curiously, why the choice of a normal linux system on top?
2015-10-20 11:01:42	@kido	what do you mean by normal linux system?
2015-10-20 11:02:18	Stskeeps	well, libhybris, yocto, etc
2015-10-20 11:03:05	Stskeeps	i have naturally looked into sailfishos on smartwatches in my past, but concluded it may be better to stuff qt based stuff on top of a bare android hw adaptation
2015-10-20 11:04:42	@kido	well that's right, but I also wanted to be close to the already existing projects (namely the mer based OS) in order not to reinvent the wheel and minimize the new things to do
2015-10-20 11:04:47	Stskeeps	nod
2015-10-20 11:05:34	@kido	plus, the android source tree is a mess to work with, especialy with android wear which is half closed
2015-10-20 11:05:49	Stskeeps	what device was it you were playing with?
2015-10-20 11:05:54	@kido	LG G Watch
2015-10-20 11:05:56	Stskeeps	ah
2015-10-20 11:06:02	Stskeeps	i have a sony smartwatch 3 here
2015-10-20 11:06:09	@kido	oh nice
2015-10-20 11:06:27	@kido	for jolla R&D?
2015-10-20 11:06:46	Stskeeps	well, i'm in a position where i research a lot, but doesn't mean we're making a smartwatch :)
2015-10-20 11:06:50	@kido	I also decided to use a "normal linux" so that it can be adapted to non-android wear smartwatches too
2015-10-20 11:06:51	Stskeeps	but good to know how the guts of things work
2015-10-20 11:06:54	Stskeeps	ah
2015-10-20 11:06:58	Stskeeps	those really exist though?
2015-10-20 11:07:01	Stskeeps	well
2015-10-20 11:07:01	@kido	sure I understand
2015-10-20 11:07:04	Stskeeps	non-android wear yes
2015-10-20 11:07:06	Stskeeps	non-android?
2015-10-20 11:07:25	Stskeeps	well, ok, samsung's tizen ones
2015-10-20 11:09:22	@kido	I mostly think about tizen indeed (the apple watch and pebble seem to be out of game) but I believe it's still early to say that android wear will be as important as android so... who knows, maybe a kickstarter project or something with a linux on it might be adapted to asteroid
2015-10-20 11:09:36	Stskeeps	nod
2015-10-20 11:09:54	Stskeeps	http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/10/15/rockchip-rk6321-dual-core-cortex-a5-soc-targets-wearables-with-wifi-bluetooth-3g-and-gps/ - 50 USD android 3g connected smartwatches
2015-10-20 11:10:36	@kido	at least it let us a little bit more freedom, and as Asteroid is mostly about hackability... that's not negligible
2015-10-20 11:11:18	@kido	woah never heard of that target, that looks interesting
2015-10-20 11:11:49	locusf	heh
2015-10-20 11:12:09	locusf	as always, its about the actual implementation of the hardware and the drivers
2015-10-20 11:12:22	locusf	sure its not qualcomm and I don't know about Rockchip that much
2015-10-20 11:13:13	locusf	but still, its the "blank stare" argument, by Stskeeps, when asking any hardware mf about if this supports eg. EGL Wayland compositor out of the box
2015-10-20 11:13:18	Stskeeps	nod
2015-10-20 11:15:03	Stskeeps	locusf: the worst one was 'sure we support x11 and egl/gles and composition'
2015-10-20 11:15:11	Stskeeps	=> drivers totally broken in that regard
2015-10-20 11:15:56	locusf	hahha
2015-10-20 11:16:25	locusf	kido: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed8duAnlwHc referred from this video
2015-10-20 11:16:40	locusf	explaining entire libhybris would take a lecture module
2015-10-20 11:17:07	@kido	indeed, I've already seen that one :)
2015-10-20 11:17:19	locusf	but Stskeeps did a decent job on explaining it in a FOSDEM presentation
2015-10-20 11:17:25	locusf	okay :)
2015-10-20 11:17:57	locusf	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMgnqIlz6B8&index=3&list=LLR8yPMJfoeqUbIrWqUrb1LA
2015-10-20 11:18:00	locusf	gah
2015-10-20 11:18:12	locusf	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMgnqIlz6B8 <- this how tizen community does it
2015-10-20 11:19:17	locusf	I based my minnowboard adaptation on what Philippe (RzR) did with his
2015-10-20 11:19:23	locusf	for Nemo
2015-10-20 11:19:45	@kido	mhh I've never watched how tizen does that but it might be interesting, I'll give it a look
2015-10-20 11:20:53	locusf	yeah Leon and Philippe are good guys
2015-10-20 11:22:10	locusf	(and of course the rest of you guys as well for being here and interested :) )
2015-10-20 13:29:48	dr_gogeta86	locusf, the problem is the same ca$h
2015-10-20 13:37:55	locusf	dr_gogeta86: yeah
2015-10-20 13:38:10	locusf	+ effort
2015-10-20 13:38:34	locusf	its not entirely trivial to do graphics
2015-10-20 13:41:15	dr_gogeta86	i've run out of time ... this is worst