2015-10-26 09:50:35	rZr	kido: I wont be at capitole du libre but 99% chances I will attend next THSF
2015-10-26 09:50:49	rZr	kido: maybe you could track it and apply for a lecture there
2015-10-26 09:59:15	@kido	That's right I'll take a look at it
2015-10-26 10:08:09	@kido	locusf: did qmlsettings's date and hour menu entry really work?
2015-10-26 10:08:41	locusf	kido: nope
2015-10-26 10:09:20	@kido	Ok, have you thought of any solution?
2015-10-26 10:09:21	locusf	kido: it has huge bitrot, ie. its old and unmaintained
2015-10-26 10:09:45	@kido	Alright, I'll write it from scratch then
2015-10-26 10:09:55	locusf	the middleware api has moved forward from gui
2015-10-26 10:11:02	@kido	Should I dig deeper into nemo-qml-plugin-time?
2015-10-26 10:12:32	locusf	yes and nqp-settings
2015-10-26 10:12:49	locusf	ie. nemo-qml-plugin :)
2015-10-26 10:13:13	@kido	Ok thanks :)
2015-10-26 10:13:38	@kido	Asteroid gets the same hour as android but it doesn't sync to its timezone
2015-10-26 10:14:05	@kido	So I wonder if I should let the user pick a timezone or just change the hour
2015-10-26 10:14:43	@kido	On android it's totaly transparent because both of the hour and tz are synced with the phone
2015-10-26 10:28:35	@kido	I also wonder if I should rename Asteroid to AsteroidOS, it will be much easier to find
2015-10-26 12:22:56	rZr	kido, +1
2015-10-26 12:23:25	rZr	or make it shorter AsterOS :)
2015-10-26 12:23:39	@kido	well I just registered asteroidos.org
2015-10-26 12:24:14	rZr	good at least the legacy name is in it
2015-10-26 12:24:27	@kido	indeed
2015-10-26 12:25:35	locusf	cool
2015-10-26 15:26:01	@kido	great, we've got proper screen unlocking thanks to the indications of spiiroin
2015-10-26 15:26:28	@kido	if I manage to set the timezone of timed I will be able to use Asteroid on a daily basis :)
2015-10-26 17:54:53	ilpianista	thank you for your work! buying a LG watch right now :-)
2015-10-26 17:59:45	@kido	ilpianista: awesome! :)
2015-10-26 18:00:28	@kido	is it a LG G Watch or another model? you could help porting to a new device if you get another one
2015-10-26 18:01:22	ilpianista	kido, I'm buying an LG G because that's listed to work... I don't know if I've the skill to help in porting to a new model yet
2015-10-26 18:01:58	@kido	it's alright :D always good to see the community grow
2015-10-26 18:02:12	ilpianista	I'd like to help ports however
2015-10-26 18:02:17	ilpianista	not sure which skills are required
2015-10-26 18:02:24	ilpianista	or which hw
2015-10-26 18:03:08	@kido	well porting isn't really hard, I guess that patience is the most important skill :)
2015-10-26 18:03:48	 *	ilpianista checks that
2015-10-26 18:03:52	ilpianista	what else?
2015-10-26 18:04:54	@kido	well I still haven't find time to write a detailed guide but I started to write some notes let met check
2015-10-26 18:05:22	@kido	we use libhybris to reuser android wear's drivers, so the first step in porting asteroidos to a new watch is to build and android /system directory
2015-10-26 18:06:06	@kido	to boot the device, we also use a modified android kernel that supports the targeted platform with only some minors modifications in the config to support systemd and other tools (bluez connman and so on)
2015-10-26 18:06:37	@kido	and the build is made reproductible with OpenEmbedded (I'm not sure whether you already know it or not but it's mostly a huge embedded build system)
2015-10-26 18:07:33	ilpianista	didn't know openembedded yety
2015-10-26 18:07:35	@kido	so basicaly the first thing to do is to package a /system/ directory with recompiled open-source parts from AOSP (don't get afraid there, we only keep the strict minimum from android, e.g. libc and core architecture)
2015-10-26 18:08:05	ilpianista	got it.
2015-10-26 18:08:20	ilpianista	which model do you suggest?
2015-10-26 18:08:21	@kido	then we pull the few binary blobs that are needed from android, that's the only closed-source components we use
2015-10-26 18:08:52	@kido	then you gotta find your device's kernel and modify the defconfig according to a verify-defconfig script I wrote (easiest part)
2015-10-26 18:09:18	@kido	and automatize the build of everything with an openembedded layer
2015-10-26 18:09:49	@kido	well I wrote a list of devices that would need porting here: https://github.com/Asteroid-Project/asteroid/wiki/TODO-List
2015-10-26 18:10:45	@kido	I believe that the LG G Watch R and Urbane* have a similar soc as the LG G Watch so it would probably the easiest watches to start with
2015-10-26 18:11:08	@kido	it would spare you some of the burden I had to go through
2015-10-26 18:11:42	@kido	anyway if you don't want to take the risk of buying a watch that could possibly never work you can still stick to the lg g watch (which is the cheapest) and help by developing apps
2015-10-26 18:11:58	ilpianista	mmm those LGs are too expensive
2015-10-26 18:12:11	@kido	I agree
2015-10-26 18:13:06	@kido	well, the LG G Watch might be a good choice then
2015-10-26 18:13:14	ilpianista	seems the cheapest
2015-10-26 18:13:23	@kido	I think it is
2015-10-26 18:13:58	@kido	with the asus zenwatch and sony smartwatch 3
2015-10-26 18:14:41	locusf	we were looking at Samsung Gear S2 as well
2015-10-26 18:14:49	locusf	although its a black box at this point
2015-10-26 18:14:56	@kido	that's right
2015-10-26 18:15:18	ilpianista	what about sony smartwatch 2?
2015-10-26 18:16:15	@kido	well, it runs on a non-wear android, it would probably work but not without some efforts
2015-10-26 18:16:30	ilpianista	ah didn't know the difference
2015-10-26 18:16:50	Stskeeps	sony smartwatch 2 is not really a android wear device, smartwatch 3 is
2015-10-26 18:16:55	ilpianista	got it
2015-10-26 18:23:15	@kido	then it all depends on what you want to do :) at least with the G Watch you will be sure it will work
2015-10-26 18:23:35	ilpianista	yeah I suppose I will got for that ATM
2015-10-26 18:24:53	locusf	kido: shared to Diaspora, which went to my personal wordpress, then to G+ and my LinkedIn :)
2015-10-26 18:25:32	@kido	ahah you're a connected man
2015-10-26 18:26:26	locusf	heh, not too much, just enough :)
2015-10-26 18:35:09	@kido	well it seems that the date & time settings have been made easy by nemo-qml-plugin-systemsettings https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/nemo-qml-plugin-systemsettings/blob/master/src/datetimesettings.cpp I will use that in asteroid-settings
2015-10-26 18:35:43	locusf	ah it was under that name