2015-12-24 09:24:28	locusf	Alin Jerpelea is a good guy
2015-12-24 09:24:46	locusf	he helped me get some devices for sfos development on Xperia line a year ago
2015-12-24 09:25:18	 *	Stskeeps has a sw3
2015-12-24 09:25:21	Stskeeps	hackeable for sure
2015-12-24 11:43:08	@kido	then I think we should contact him indeed :) moreover, it seems to be an appropriate day for asking for gifts
2015-12-24 12:22:30	@kido	trying to navigate with the current Asteroid's LayerStack is definitely one of the most painful experience I ever had :)
2015-12-24 14:11:27	dr_gogeta86	gm guys
2015-12-24 14:11:29	dr_gogeta86	lrelease is missing .... why ?
2015-12-24 14:12:49	@kido	hi dr_gogeta86 
2015-12-24 14:12:53	@kido	where?
2015-12-24 14:14:16	dr_gogeta86	asteroid-image
2015-12-24 14:14:26	dr_gogeta86	i've also built qttools by hand but nothing
2015-12-24 14:14:38	dr_gogeta86	while compiling lipstick of course
2015-12-24 14:14:57	@kido	ok just let me a minute I thought I already corrected that
2015-12-24 14:15:58	@kido	mhmhh I fixed lupdate but not lrelease indeed
2015-12-24 14:16:41	dr_gogeta86	hehe
2015-12-24 14:19:21	@kido	dr_gogeta86: you are always the one who meet every problem sorry for that :D you can git pull in src/meta-asteroid and it will be fixed
2015-12-24 14:23:23	@kido	dr_gogeta86: sorry didn't push, try it again...
2015-12-24 14:33:26	dr_gogeta86	kido, QA
2015-12-24 14:34:22	@kido	:)
2015-12-24 14:55:02	@kido	Stskeeps: ahah I observe that being a consultant makes you more reactive both on IRC and Twitter :D
2015-12-24 14:56:14	locusf	woa what a video kido o/
2015-12-24 14:56:34	@kido	:D
2015-12-24 14:56:49	dr_gogeta86	which locusf
2015-12-24 14:57:18	@kido	well it's nothing fantastic, it's just that it has been a long time I had't filmed Asteroid
2015-12-24 14:57:28	Stskeeps	kido: not bad
2015-12-24 14:57:48	@kido	:)
2015-12-24 14:58:07	Stskeeps	kido: already looks better than android wear
2015-12-24 14:58:07	Stskeeps	:P
2015-12-24 14:58:32	@kido	indeed I'm proud of the launcher
2015-12-24 14:58:36	Stskeeps	kido: you got a talk accepted at fosdem too right?
2015-12-24 14:58:36	locusf	dr_gogeta86: check twitter of asteroidos
2015-12-24 14:58:52	@kido	the QML apps are still a bit rough though...
2015-12-24 14:59:00	Stskeeps	still better than android wear
2015-12-24 14:59:00	Stskeeps	:P
2015-12-24 14:59:17	@kido	Stskeeps: yes saturday at 11am, but it still hasn't been anounced on the fosdem's website
2015-12-24 14:59:23	Stskeeps	looks super smooth though
2015-12-24 14:59:26	locusf	cool
2015-12-24 14:59:37	locusf	2 hours before mine
2015-12-24 14:59:38	@kido	yes and I still haven't integrated mapplauncherd
2015-12-24 14:59:59	@kido	it will be way faster with it
2015-12-24 15:00:55	dr_gogeta86	Stskeeps, last version of wear onto g watch stutter from unboxed
2015-12-24 15:01:28	Stskeeps	kido: well app launch times at least
2015-12-24 15:01:59	@kido	yes, but that's the bottleneck currently
2015-12-24 15:10:00	@kido	hi wazd 
2015-12-24 15:10:02	locusf	hmm
2015-12-24 15:10:22	locusf	wonder about asteroid running android wear inside
2015-12-24 15:10:25	wazd	hahaha, looks like every OSS project is driven by you guys :D
2015-12-24 15:10:35	wazd	hi all :D
2015-12-24 15:10:36	Stskeeps	(just hanging out, not part)
2015-12-24 15:10:36	Stskeeps	:P
2015-12-24 15:10:45	locusf	hey wazd
2015-12-24 15:11:27	wazd	just saw the video - really impressive!
2015-12-24 15:11:43	@kido	Stskeeps: oh you just made everything possible... :)
2015-12-24 15:12:05	@kido	locusf: ahah that would be awesome indeed
2015-12-24 15:12:31	locusf	linuxos running with android drivers running android system inside sdl wayland framebuffer
2015-12-24 15:12:48	locusf	woot
2015-12-24 15:13:08	locusf	kido: its possible
2015-12-24 15:13:36	wazd	I just thought I have some time to help with Smartwatch UX/UI if you need
2015-12-24 15:14:26	@kido	wazd: that would be awesome, we were just talking about the fact that we definitely lack that kind of skills
2015-12-24 15:15:33	wazd	kido: well, tell me what you need and it will be done :)
2015-12-24 15:15:47	wazd	kido: https://www.behance.net/wazd
2015-12-24 15:15:48	@kido	locusf: and guarantee 100% dirty-hack-free :)
2015-12-24 15:17:41	@kido	wazd: aah don't know what to say apart from the fact that you come at the perfect time. yesterday I was searching for open-source-friendly designers on behance and #opensourcedesign
2015-12-24 15:18:07	wazd	kido: oh, I'm like a veteran of OSS design :P :D
2015-12-24 15:18:27	wazd	thanks to Stskeeps :D
2015-12-24 15:19:06	@kido	wazd: currently the apps scheduled for the alpha1 are mostly: launcher, settings, timer, alarmclock, calendar, calculator and stopwatch
2015-12-24 15:19:57	@kido	some of them are in pretty good shape (e.g: asteroid-launcher looks nice I guess), others are pretty ugly (e.g: the settings) and some apps are not even started (e.g: timer/alarmclock)
2015-12-24 15:20:47	@kido	+ we currently use the default "Base" style for QtQuick.Controls which is not really adapted, we would love to have some custom flat components design
2015-12-24 15:21:40	@kido	I tried to write some smartwatch UX guidelines some time ago https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid/wiki/User-experience-guidelines but nothing exceptional, I'm not a designer
2015-12-24 15:23:03	wazd	I see
2015-12-24 15:23:43	@kido	for now we embed the http://ionicons.com/ actions for easier development
2015-12-24 15:23:57	@kido	and we use the Moka icon theme for the app's icons
2015-12-24 15:27:52	@kido	we also recently got a selection of default wallpapers https://github.com/Nokius/Asteroid-doodle/blob/master/Table.md in the first table
2015-12-24 15:42:34	wazd	kido: got that. Do you have any thoughts about the whole concept of Asteroid user experience?
2015-12-24 15:43:52	wazd	kido: should it be more like competitors or try to introduce something different?
2015-12-24 15:45:19	@kido	currently I guess it's overall "like competitors" but mostly because I don't see where there would be room for improvements, if you notice any way to makes thing simpler that could be good to keep
2015-12-24 15:46:09	@kido	make things*
2015-12-24 15:55:37	wazd	kido: I have some ideas, it will do all the things it does now but in a more arranged manner. Will draw them asap
2015-12-24 15:56:16	@kido	very cool, keep us updated of your progress
2015-12-24 15:59:27	@kido	keep in mind that apps should run both on square and round screens, this is currently a problem with the calculator and settings apps
2015-12-24 16:01:20	wazd	kido: yeah :)
2015-12-24 16:04:29	wazd	kido: do you think unified apps is a good idea?
2015-12-24 16:04:47	@kido	what do you mean by unified apps?
2015-12-24 16:06:34	wazd	kido: one ui for both round and rectangular displays
2015-12-24 16:08:23	@kido	well, considering the limited number of developers we currenly have I think that would be the way to go
2015-12-24 16:12:29	wazd	kido: wrong :D You're actually ask people to do more by forcing them to design a unified UI for such different conditions. With comlex UIs (like calculator) - that would really be an issue
2015-12-24 16:14:05	wazd	kido: most of devs would do unified interfaces anyway if there's no need in 2 different
2015-12-24 16:14:18	wazd	kido: but if there is, they will have that option
2015-12-24 16:14:52	@kido	I understand, actually the problem isn't really important as of today because AsteroidOS only runs on the LG G Watch however Nokius is working on getting it to work on the Moto 360 so that will become a problem someday, you can think of two differents UXs and then we will see what we can do with it
2015-12-24 16:15:32	wazd	kido: UX would be pretty much the same for both, that doesn't matter
2015-12-24 16:15:48	wazd	kido: but yeah, got your point
2015-12-24 16:17:14	@kido	btw you can refer to the Tizen's wearable guidelines I think there are pretty good ideas there: https://developer.tizen.org/design/wearable
2015-12-24 16:21:20	@kido	watchfaces would also be good things to design
2015-12-24 16:22:35	wazd	kido: that's not critical atm
2015-12-24 16:22:57	wazd	kido: what you need is a good "spine" to build around
2015-12-24 16:23:08	wazd	and I can do that
2015-12-24 16:23:16	@kido	right
2015-12-24 19:03:13	dr_gogeta86	kido, PARALLEL_MAKE=4 BB_NUMBER_THREADS=8 bitbake asteroid-image
2015-12-24 19:03:17	dr_gogeta86	will it bend  ?
2015-12-24 19:07:53	dr_gogeta86	PARALLEL_MAKE=4 BB_NUMBER_THREADS=16 bitbake asteroid-image -c fetchall
2015-12-24 19:07:55	dr_gogeta86	booom
2015-12-24 19:58:38	@kido	:D
2015-12-24 19:58:59	@kido	dr_gogeta86: did the image work?
2015-12-24 20:31:49	@kido	hi M-bobsummerwill 
2015-12-24 20:31:53	@kido	hi myst0z*
2015-12-24 20:32:13	myst0z	hello
2015-12-24 20:33:31	locusf	evening
2015-12-24 20:52:03	M-bobsummerwill	Great video, kido!   I am jealous of you FOSDEM-ers.
2015-12-24 20:52:23	@kido	ahah thank you :D
2015-12-24 20:52:40	@kido	I'm sure there must be nice events in canada too
2015-12-24 21:13:12	M-bobsummerwill	OSCON is the main one, I guess, but I've never been.   Maybe 2016 is my time!http://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/
2015-12-24 21:28:55	Nokius	kido: nice video, the wallpaper looks nice
2015-12-24 21:29:04	Nokius	btw. merry xmas to all
2015-12-24 22:17:33	@kido	mhh organized by oreilly that seems to be a huge event indeed
2015-12-24 22:17:46	@kido	Nokius: yes I tested many and this one seems to fit really well
2015-12-24 22:18:11	@kido	and yes merry christmas everyone, I hope you're eating as much as I am
2015-12-24 22:50:20	Nokius	kido: I did