2016-03-08 10:19:20	@kido	mcirsta: heyj have you started working on QEMU? :)
2016-03-08 10:19:31	@kido	if you need any assistance on that don't hesitate
2016-03-08 10:19:32	mcirsta	hi kido
2016-03-08 10:19:35	mcirsta	no, not yet
2016-03-08 10:19:39	@kido	alright
2016-03-08 10:19:48	mcirsta	to be honest I wasted my time reversing the Samsung app :D
2016-03-08 10:19:59	@kido	:D
2016-03-08 10:20:00	mcirsta	the one to connect from my phone
2016-03-08 10:20:05	@kido	got any result?
2016-03-08 10:20:12	mcirsta	well almost
2016-03-08 10:20:45	mcirsta	it has an xml that controls what you can do with each model
2016-03-08 10:21:10	mcirsta	and it has a property that says if it works on non-Samsung phones
2016-03-08 10:21:24	mcirsta	hacked that so now it sees my Gear S even on my Xiaomi
2016-03-08 10:21:38	mcirsta	then it nees some more APKs, installed those
2016-03-08 10:21:54	mcirsta	but then it calls some Samsung specific classes
2016-03-08 10:22:14	mcirsta	not much though, one I've found is about dual sim , I can easily remove that one ...
2016-03-08 10:22:32	mcirsta	in the end though I'm not sure it's worth it, the Tizen on it is crappy
2016-03-08 10:22:56	mcirsta	but I would have really liked to connect to my phone till I can get Asteroid working ...
2016-03-08 10:23:42	mcirsta	now I'm not sure how far I need to go , maybe removing the call to 1-2 classes will do it, maybe not
2016-03-08 10:23:56	mcirsta	I think I'm leaving it at this :)
2016-03-08 10:24:10	mcirsta	and working on Asteroid instead
2016-03-08 10:24:29	mcirsta	it was fun though , I like to do some Android reverse engineering once in a while
2016-03-08 10:24:45	@kido	indeed it seemed to have been a lot of fun
2016-03-08 10:25:17	mcirsta	learned quite a few about using apktool and such
2016-03-08 10:25:21	@kido	cool work
2016-03-08 10:25:28	mcirsta	even uses the smalidea plugin
2016-03-08 10:26:00	mcirsta	speaking of this , will Asterioid have some software to connect to Android ?
2016-03-08 10:26:06	mcirsta	to an Android phone that is
2016-03-08 10:26:37	@kido	sure
2016-03-08 10:27:17	@kido	for now I only have some very basic code for qtconnectivity server on my PC and qtconnectivity client on the watch
2016-03-08 10:27:38	mcirsta	yes I was curious if it's in the plans
2016-03-08 10:27:49	mcirsta	OK so I'll take a look at qemu tonight
2016-03-08 10:28:00	mcirsta	as I said I need to see about the state of it on FW
2016-03-08 10:28:08	@kido	I wanted to implement the Alert Notification Protocol standard from bluetooth but I think I won't go that way because 1- it requires root on the computer or sailfishos and android > kitkat and 2- it's very limited so anyway I will have to extend it
2016-03-08 10:28:18	mcirsta	I know the server part works but I'm not sure about opengl and such
2016-03-08 10:28:42	@kido	alright :)
2016-03-08 10:28:54	mcirsta	well we can always take a peek at how Samsung does it :D
2016-03-08 10:29:03	mcirsta	if you think that's useful
2016-03-08 10:29:22	@kido	well I'd be curious about what everyone did to get inspired
2016-03-08 10:29:29	mcirsta	I don't mean using any code of theirs
2016-03-08 10:29:38	mcirsta	just what APIs and the basic idea of it
2016-03-08 10:29:50	@kido	but in the end I understand why nobody uses the Alert Notification Profile and there is no other standard for that so...
2016-03-08 10:30:07	@kido	we end up in this situation https://xkcd.com/927/
2016-03-08 10:30:29	mcirsta	lol
2016-03-08 10:31:08	mcirsta	well I can reverse engineer Android stuff so we can take a peek into what Samsung or LG uses to communicate
2016-03-08 10:31:39	mcirsta	but I think you mean getting the notifications from Android , right ?
2016-03-08 10:31:46	mcirsta	not sending them to the watch
2016-03-08 10:31:51	@kido	I will start with a Qt PC Client, then a SailfishOS client (as soon as I have a sailfish phone) and then I will extend gadgetbridge to support asteroid on android
2016-03-08 10:32:27	@kido	yes I'm talking about the bluetooth le protocol between the phone and watch
2016-03-08 10:33:05	locusf	heh
2016-03-08 10:33:12	@kido	hey locusf :)
2016-03-08 10:33:21	locusf	I read that as french
2016-03-08 10:33:23	@kido	what's up?
2016-03-08 10:33:26	locusf	bluetooth "le protocol"
2016-03-08 10:33:46	@kido	ahah, I hope I'm not that bad in english
2016-03-08 10:34:01	locusf	so yeah hey kido
2016-03-08 10:34:14	locusf	I'm still stuck with asteroid on zenwatch
2016-03-08 10:34:19	@kido	what's the problem?
2016-03-08 10:34:34	locusf	it blurts out the partitions instead of booting
2016-03-08 10:34:43	@kido	blurts out? what does that mean
2016-03-08 10:35:00	locusf	it shows them in the device mounting menu of host OS
2016-03-08 10:35:43	@kido	device mounting menu?
2016-03-08 10:35:50	@kido	on your computer?
2016-03-08 10:35:59	locusf	yeah
2016-03-08 10:36:04	@kido	when?
2016-03-08 10:36:25	locusf	after fastboot booting the kernel + using ext2 image
2016-03-08 10:36:42	@kido	mmhhhhh
2016-03-08 10:36:58	@kido	what the heck
2016-03-08 10:37:24	@kido	do you have any result like splashscreen or whatever?
2016-03-08 10:37:29	@kido	no adb shell?
2016-03-08 10:37:34	locusf	no splash or adb
2016-03-08 10:38:07	@kido	do you have /proc/last_kmsg?
2016-03-08 10:38:19	locusf	I didn't look yet
2016-03-08 10:38:21	locusf	too busy :p
2016-03-08 10:38:25	@kido	alright
2016-03-08 10:38:29	locusf	probably in the evening
2016-03-08 10:38:33	dr_gogeta86	hi guys
2016-03-08 10:38:38	@kido	hi dr_gogeta86 
2016-03-08 10:38:52	dr_gogeta86	locusf: new record 20h streak
2016-03-08 10:38:59	dr_gogeta86	yesterday
2016-03-08 10:39:15	dr_gogeta86	and today regularly at work
2016-03-08 10:39:23	@kido	and did you use enable_adb in your kernel boot arguments?
2016-03-08 10:42:06	@kido	try to use enable_adb in your img_info https://github.com/locusf/meta-athias-hybris/blob/master/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-athias/img_info next time it should trigger you a shell as soon as the ramdisk is up and running https://github.com/locusf/meta-athias-hybris/blob/master/recipes-core/initrdscripts/initramfs-boot-android/init.sh#L51
2016-03-08 10:42:42	@kido	I really have no idea why those partitions are getting mounted over usb, this does not make any sense
2016-03-08 10:42:59	mcirsta	I think that's some Qcom bullshit
2016-03-08 10:43:10	mcirsta	I remember hearing about something like that
2016-03-08 10:43:11	@kido	probably but where is that triggered?
2016-03-08 10:43:21	@kido	never had that behavior
2016-03-08 10:43:22	mcirsta	bootloader ?
2016-03-08 10:44:10	mcirsta	I think it's some recovery or error situation that Qcom goes into
2016-03-08 10:44:14	mcirsta	but it's just a guess
2016-03-08 10:44:16	@kido	:|
2016-03-08 10:45:06	@kido	locusf: also double check the android's /proc/cmdline and compare it to this one https://github.com/locusf/meta-athias-hybris/blob/master/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-athias/img_info#L10 to see if there is any mismatch
2016-03-08 10:45:57	@kido	+ make a backup of your boot or recovery partition and try to flash your boot.img on the one you chose
2016-03-08 10:46:06	@kido	you can later flash back your previous bootloader
2016-03-08 10:46:34	@kido	mcirsta: I will try to search if I find anything like that but this is really strange
2016-03-08 10:52:05	mcirsta	kido: I remember something alongs these lines happening to the Optimus G2 when it broke
2016-03-08 11:02:09	@kido	mcirsta: ok
2016-03-08 11:07:47	@kido	sledges: hey, need your experience of device porting here :) have you ever heard of the locusf's problem on a qcom phone? when he boots the boot.img it somehow fails and mounts the partitions on his computer (via usb) this is a really surprising behavior
2016-03-08 11:08:00	@kido	hi bob
2016-03-08 11:09:31	sledges	kido: means something went wrong: https://github.com/mer-hybris/hybris-boot/blob/master/init-script#L319
2016-03-08 11:11:47	@kido	cool! I will take a look at that script, thanks a lot :)
2016-03-08 11:12:24	@kido	the Boat Loader
2016-03-08 11:17:05	locusf	sledges: kido I dont get any error information on my usb device attributes though
2016-03-08 11:18:54	@kido	but this feature is enabled by the mer boat loader script with a specific mass_storage argument given to /sys/class/android_usb/android0/functions
2016-03-08 11:19:03	@kido	there is no such thing in the asteroid's ramdisk script
2016-03-08 11:19:30	sledges	locusf: you should have this: https://github.com/mer-hybris/hybris-boot/blob/master/init-script#L216
2016-03-08 11:27:18	locusf	sledges: I don't have it
2016-03-08 11:27:25	locusf	I'll debug once I'm home
2016-03-08 11:28:39	@kido	ok
2016-03-08 11:36:47	mcirsta	Is it based on the Qualcomm reference platform? Qualcomm reference platform specifies the use of a special HS-USB mode 9006, which provides access to all partitions regardless of the bootloader lock status.
2016-03-08 11:37:05	mcirsta	ote that once the correct drivers are installed, and the device is connected and switched into HS-USB 9006, its partitions will automatically appear in the Windows Disk Management console. Once they are there, you may use any mobile forensic tool or certain flash imaging tools to dump the content of the data partition.
2016-03-08 11:37:12	mcirsta	sounds about right
2016-03-08 11:37:25	locusf	yeah
2016-03-08 11:37:39	locusf	that would explain the problems that I can't see the device identifier debug messages
2016-03-08 11:38:50	@kido	nice catch mcirsta
2016-03-08 11:41:35	mcirsta	http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600869
2016-03-08 11:41:50	mcirsta	there seem to be various ways to get out of it
2016-03-08 11:41:59	mcirsta	for Android phones of course
2016-03-08 11:42:24	mcirsta	I remember having this on an LG Optimus 2 as I said but the recovery method was LG specific
2016-03-08 11:42:30	mcirsta	some internal tool of theirs
2016-03-08 11:42:39	@kido	ok
2016-03-08 11:43:39	mcirsta	I think if you have a backup you could maybe flash those partitions ?
2016-03-08 11:43:45	mcirsta	but I'm not sure
2016-03-08 17:43:31	@kido	woh this is actually really cool https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1540240985/calendar-watch
2016-03-08 17:46:26	locusf	kido: yeah I had the boardname all wrong
2016-03-08 17:46:37	locusf	compiling again to see if something went fubar
2016-03-08 17:46:40	@kido	:)
2016-03-08 17:56:26	locusf	yeah something is different now
2016-03-08 17:56:46	locusf	doesn't blurt the partitions but doesn't continue from fastboot either
2016-03-08 17:57:12	@kido	great
2016-03-08 17:57:28	@kido	at least we are further!
2016-03-08 17:57:33	@kido	check your last_kmsg
2016-03-08 17:58:20	locusf	aye
2016-03-08 17:59:44	locusf	its somehow in binary
2016-03-08 17:59:53	@kido	last_kmsg? oO
2016-03-08 18:00:06	locusf	yeah
2016-03-08 18:00:09	@kido	wut
2016-03-08 18:00:14	locusf	prints out this questionmark crap
2016-03-08 18:01:57	@kido	mhhh maybe it is looking at the wrong address in RAM
2016-03-08 18:03:50	@kido	do you use the default asus' kernel?
2016-03-08 18:04:26	locusf	yes
2016-03-08 18:07:04	@kido	if you manage to boot android with a vanilla kernel with just CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE you might have a chance
2016-03-08 18:07:35	@kido	I mean... it *could* be that the RAM_CONSOLE address isn't the same, and the only way to make sure it is the same would be to use more or less the same kernel on android
2016-03-08 20:57:43	konraditurbe	I am going to do a compass app for Asteroid OS since there is no compass app
2016-03-08 20:57:50	konraditurbe	I am also updating the Wiki
2016-03-08 20:59:32	@kido	hi konraditurbe 
2016-03-08 21:00:04	konraditurbe	hi kido
2016-03-08 21:00:24	@kido	well you should know that I have actualy no idea how to do the compass app for now
2016-03-08 21:00:42	@kido	I don't know if there is a magnetometer or whatever
2016-03-08 21:00:52	konraditurbe	There is a compass app on wear
2016-03-08 21:01:17	@kido	yes but I'm not sure how it is implemented
2016-03-08 21:07:22	konraditurbe	There is an accelerometer, a gyro and a compass in the LG G Watch
2016-03-08 21:08:36	@kido	ok
2016-03-08 21:10:48	konraditurbe	Also it would be good if the OS and the apps could have access to the WiFi module found in all Android Wear watches except the G watch
2016-03-08 21:11:03	konraditurbe	For notification fetching/calendar entry...
2016-03-08 21:11:28	@kido	TheAppleMan is working on that on the g watch urbane
2016-03-08 21:11:31	r0kk3rz	kido: you'd have to dig into sensorfwand probably have a chat with lpotter
2016-03-08 21:12:46	konraditurbe	sensorfwand?
2016-03-08 21:12:46	@kido	r0kk3rz: indeed I was just checking and it seems to be QtSensors - Sensorfw - Sensorfw-hybris
2016-03-08 21:12:58	konraditurbe	ah
2016-03-08 21:13:03	konraditurbe	got it :)
2016-03-08 21:13:31	@kido	but alin jerpelea told me that the g watch might need a proprietary sensor daemon
2016-03-08 21:13:41	@kido	I mean, qcom devices
2016-03-08 21:14:17	@kido	last time I got a little bit of interest in sensors (a long time ago) the test from libhybris wasn't working
2016-03-08 21:14:47	r0kk3rz	lpotter is the main sensors guy, but he is in brisbane so timezones suck
2016-03-08 21:15:22	@kido	silly australian :)
2016-03-08 21:16:04	r0kk3rz	i know right
2016-03-08 21:17:36	konraditurbe	Why do qcom chip watches need a separate sensor module?
2016-03-08 21:19:16	@kido	ask qualcomm :)
2016-03-08 21:19:44	konraditurbe	Didn't Google implement a sensor hub in MM?
2016-03-08 21:19:46	konraditurbe	https://source.android.com/devices/sensors/sensor-stack.html
2016-03-08 21:20:06	@kido	http://pastebin.com/RcDn3EiR
2016-03-08 21:21:03	konraditurbe	Shoot
2016-03-08 21:21:05	konraditurbe	0 sensors
2016-03-08 21:21:57	@kido	we don't use MM
2016-03-08 21:23:35	@kido	ok I'm taking a look at the multihal source code and it seems I removed some part of its config
2016-03-08 21:24:35	konraditurbe	on a side note, is the pootle server available? I can translate to spanish (native language) and german (second language)
2016-03-08 21:25:21	@kido	went a little bit further than that http://pastebin.com/tqxm1uNn
2016-03-08 21:25:38	@kido	I don't have time for that today though
2016-03-08 21:25:57	@kido	no we are still lacking a real server :/
2016-03-08 21:25:58	konraditurbe	I can run it if you want, I have time :)
2016-03-08 21:26:16	konraditurbe	I have a spare RPi
2016-03-08 21:26:26	konraditurbe	will that be enough?
2016-03-08 21:26:33	@kido	definitely no
2016-03-08 21:26:54	@kido	(not enough I mean)
2016-03-08 21:27:06	konraditurbe	In VLC they use Transifex and it works perfectly
2016-03-08 21:27:24	konraditurbe	Not open source and web based though
2016-03-08 21:27:26	@kido	isn't that a paid service?
2016-03-08 21:29:33	konraditurbe	There is a free version
2016-03-08 21:30:53	konraditurbe	I can create an organization and manage it
2016-03-08 21:31:27	@kido	it seems just to be a demo
2016-03-08 21:31:55	@kido	it would cost less to host our own website on a server that could also host openembedded build
2016-03-08 21:32:47	@kido	anyway, for now there isn't much to translate :)
2016-03-08 21:33:07	@kido	but your help is welcome and I'll keep that in mind
2016-03-08 21:33:34	konraditurbe	Maybe host the string files on GitHub
2016-03-08 21:33:44	konraditurbe	and do like strings-es.xml
2016-03-08 21:33:59	konraditurbe	I remember a android ROM doing that
2016-03-08 21:34:53	@kido	qt offers powerful tools when it comes to internationalization, it's just that there isn't much text yet and I haven't taken care of that yet
2016-03-08 21:37:40	konraditurbe	ok, cya!
2016-03-08 21:40:58	r0kk3rz	kido: transifex is free for open source, you just need to give it a repository url
2016-03-08 21:41:11	r0kk3rz	and it also integrates nicely with the qt translation files
2016-03-08 21:42:45	@kido	ok so now this is interesting :D
2016-03-08 21:48:52	@kido	ok I tried to create an organization and it seems to be all good, still need to make the code translation friendly
2016-03-08 21:51:39	mcirsta	honestly I only care about english :D
2016-03-08 21:52:02	mcirsta	and as soon as you translate stuff people come with these error messages in God knows what language
2016-03-08 21:52:03	mcirsta	:D
2016-03-08 21:52:11	@kido	ahah
2016-03-08 21:52:26	mcirsta	and EN is not my mother tongue but I still like it better than my own lang
2016-03-08 21:52:36	@kido	well this is needed for most
2016-03-08 21:53:01	mcirsta	serious ..... ich habe eine kleine ... and you there you go ... looking for wtf that means and such
2016-03-08 21:53:14	mcirsta	for the general audiece yes translations are needed
2016-03-08 21:53:27	mcirsta	but if you work in IT learn EN or go home IMO :D
2016-03-08 21:54:09	@kido	asteroid isn't supposed to be only friendly with IT people :)
2016-03-08 21:54:28	mcirsta	well mom isn't going to use it anytime soon :D
2016-03-08 21:55:02	mcirsta	I mean no offense but for now this is its target ... for a while at least
2016-03-08 21:55:39	@kido	I agree, this is why it has not been a priority and still won't be, but this is not a reason to ignore it and this is also a nice way to get people involved in asteroid
2016-03-08 21:55:49	mcirsta	yes sure
2016-03-08 21:56:12	mcirsta	the only thing I dread is people posting stuff they get in Asteroid in foo language :D
2016-03-08 21:56:35	mcirsta	I even fear messages in my native Romanian
2016-03-08 21:56:45	mcirsta	sometimes I don't even get wtf those mean :D
2016-03-08 21:56:54	mcirsta	I can understand the words but ...
2016-03-08 21:56:55	mcirsta	anyway
2016-03-08 21:57:02	@kido	anyway, asteroid knows no error... ;)
2016-03-08 21:57:12	mcirsta	I'm not looking at getting bitbake
2016-03-08 21:57:28	@kido	:)
2016-03-08 22:00:52	mcirsta	now :D
2016-03-08 22:00:55	mcirsta	damn typos
2016-03-08 22:01:05	mcirsta	it seems I'll need that one
2016-03-08 22:32:23	@kido	ok some libs were missing for invensense.sensors.so, we are getting a little bit further http://pastebin.com/38bApdG7 but there is still work
2016-03-08 22:32:51	@kido	anyway, I should be doing maths, see you guys