2016-03-31 11:07:31	toxip	how do you do this build again on arch...
2016-03-31 11:07:43	toxip	been a while since I did this
2016-03-31 11:08:30	toxip	shouldn't this problem be fixed already?
2016-03-31 11:21:39	Nokius	toxip: what u mean?
2016-03-31 11:22:03	toxip	a few months ago when I tried building asteroid on my arch linux laptop I had this problem
2016-03-31 11:22:29	Nokius	toxip: I did it few time the last week without an issue
2016-03-31 11:22:30	toxip	the build would fail because of some issues with the directories and thus not finding correct items
2016-03-31 11:22:51	Nokius	toxip: keep in mind u have to link python to python2 not 3
2016-03-31 11:22:54	toxip	we found the problem and fixed it but now I get it again
2016-03-31 11:22:57	toxip	oh yeah
2016-03-31 11:23:00	toxip	that was the other thing
2016-03-31 11:23:02	toxip	>_<
2016-03-31 11:23:17	toxip	what was the thing called
2016-03-31 11:23:24	toxip	venv
2016-03-31 11:23:30	Nokius	toxip: all the rest is working for me :s
2016-03-31 11:23:47	toxip	damn this always reminds me of that picture
2016-03-31 11:24:07	toxip	http://bjorn.tipling.com/if-programming-languages-were-weapons
2016-03-31 11:24:24	toxip	"Python is the ?v2/v3? double barrel shotgun, only one barrel will shoot at a time, and you never end up shooting the recommended one. Also I probably should have used a line tool to draw that."
2016-03-31 12:01:43	toxip	ok building now :)
2016-03-31 12:13:24	Nokius	good
2016-03-31 12:13:48	toxip	btw, we have this thing called Sailfish Hackclub Helsinki now and we're organising a meetup next week
2016-03-31 12:13:59	toxip	we also have some interest towards nemo and asteroid there
2016-03-31 12:14:08	toxip	so we might look into this stuff there
2016-03-31 12:16:19	@kido	that would be really cool :)
2016-03-31 12:16:20	Nokius	toxip: same here I will show asteroid at SailfishOS Meetup Berlin next week :)
2016-03-31 12:16:37	@kido	awesome :)
2016-03-31 12:16:44	toxip	gonna show asteroid at Jolla meetup today ;)
2016-03-31 12:17:01	Nokius	after the great artical on golem.de time to show it waround
2016-03-31 12:17:21	toxip	how's things going in here btw?
2016-03-31 12:17:34	@kido	the python v2/v3 problem outreaches the capabilities of asteroid, there is no way I can fix that
2016-03-31 12:17:59	toxip	translate that?
2016-03-31 12:18:00	toxip	:D
2016-03-31 12:18:12	toxip	you mean you can't use v3?
2016-03-31 12:18:56	@kido	toxip: asteroid itself hasn't changed a lot during the 2 previous weeks because i've been working on the sony's unified kernel, but the porting to sony smartwatch 3 is slowly improving
2016-03-31 12:19:26	toxip	sony's unified kernel? sounds cool!
2016-03-31 12:19:45	@kido	I meant that asteroid relies on bitbake which relies on some python version and it is not our fault if arch ships you the wrong one by default
2016-03-31 12:19:50	toxip	would be nice to see this without libhybris
2016-03-31 12:20:11	toxip	yeah, no problem
2016-03-31 12:20:18	Nokius	kido: I saw it, I was mind blow again
2016-03-31 12:20:23	toxip	arch ships the CORRECT version by default :P
2016-03-31 12:20:29	toxip	v2 is legacy
2016-03-31 12:20:45	@kido	but it's not bitbake's fault either, nor arch's fault... in fact this is nobody's fault and that is the real issue
2016-03-31 12:21:24	toxip	well, until debian stable starts using v2 by default, we're gonna have this problem
2016-03-31 12:21:43	toxip	even after that devs will use python2 years to come
2016-03-31 12:22:04	toxip	just how it is
2016-03-31 12:22:31	toxip	have you guys considered on creating a telegram group?
2016-03-31 12:22:42	@kido	probably but asteroid can't do anything about that
2016-03-31 12:23:00	toxip	kido: yeah, I know
2016-03-31 12:23:16	toxip	it's not a real issue anyways
2016-03-31 12:23:36	toxip	as long as it works (tm)
2016-03-31 12:23:39	@kido	I believe that someone already asked that question but pretty much the whole free software community is already on freenode
2016-03-31 12:23:56	@kido	so this is why I'm not a fan of moving to telegram
2016-03-31 12:24:22	toxip	IRC is just so pain in the ass to setup imo
2016-03-31 12:24:47	@kido	casual users can just use the webchat
2016-03-31 12:25:29	toxip	yeah, but reading through backlog requires some shell access and a ZNC to work perfectly
2016-03-31 12:25:47	toxip	just saying
2016-03-31 12:26:24	toxip	our Jolla Fan Club has a nice IRC relay bot though
2016-03-31 12:26:41	toxip	you can chat through IRC or telegram both ways
2016-03-31 12:27:12	toxip	I see locusf messaging through irc there
2016-03-31 12:27:13	mcirsta	I like freenode :) , I log into other channels anyway
2016-03-31 12:28:26	toxip	IRC is just old... well if you ever want to create one, I could provide you with a relay bot
2016-03-31 12:32:20	locusf	toxip: yeah
2016-03-31 12:35:18	mcirsta	Linux is also old :d
2016-03-31 12:35:29	mcirsta	but as long as it still works , lol
2016-03-31 12:35:42	locusf	I like irc
2016-03-31 12:35:58	toxip	never got into IRC myself
2016-03-31 12:36:10	locusf	this whippersnapper crap like slack and whatsapp and telegram, pah
2016-03-31 12:36:33	toxip	I see telegram being a real alternative to IRC
2016-03-31 12:36:38	mcirsta	I'd bet IRC will be here long after telegram closes down :)
2016-03-31 12:36:39	@kido	if there are enough people wanting to use telegram we might setup a bot like that but I think we should keep IRC as the main channel
2016-03-31 12:36:40	toxip	unlike whatsapp for instance
2016-03-31 12:37:28	mcirsta	these IM thingies come and go but IRC is still here after I dunno how many years
2016-03-31 12:37:36	TheAppleMan	i think this article puts it nicely, especially for what asteroid needs https://drewdevault.com/2015/11/01/Please-stop-using-slack.html
2016-03-31 12:37:40	locusf	30ish years ago
2016-03-31 12:37:52	mcirsta	yeah and it's still here
2016-03-31 12:38:19	mcirsta	how old is Telegram , how long will it live ? I've seen services like telegram come and then go
2016-03-31 12:38:36	locusf	ownerlessness ftw
2016-03-31 12:41:45	toxip	one problem with telegram is though it's not fully open source
2016-03-31 12:41:50	toxip	the server side is closed
2016-03-31 12:42:16	locusf	yep
2016-03-31 12:42:21	locusf	and its owned by a company
2016-03-31 12:42:33	locusf	thus when the company goes down, everything fails
2016-03-31 12:42:40	toxip	yep
2016-03-31 12:43:00	toxip	but it just makes things so much easier so I prefer it anyway
2016-03-31 13:46:18	toxip	how can I get this permission prompt on my lg g watch T_T
2016-03-31 13:46:32	toxip	adb says it has no permissions
2016-03-31 13:47:09	locusf	it will be on your phone
2016-03-31 13:47:13	locusf	the notification
2016-03-31 13:47:19	toxip	I don't have a phone connected
2016-03-31 13:47:25	@kido	permission prompt? are you talking about udev's permission to let adb use the usb port ?
2016-03-31 13:47:29	toxip	I don't even own an android phone to connect it with
2016-03-31 13:48:12	toxip	I'm talking about the "accept this connection" prompt that you normally get when you connect to your watch using adb
2016-03-31 13:48:31	toxip	I was able to do it without using a phone once but can't get it to work again
2016-03-31 13:48:32	locusf	android wear does that :p
2016-03-31 13:48:35	locusf	oh
2016-03-31 13:48:54	@kido	mhhh, never had to use my phone for that
2016-03-31 13:49:03	@kido	have you enabled developer settings and adb debugging ?
2016-03-31 13:49:35	toxip	yes yes
2016-03-31 13:50:19	@kido	then I don't know, this is everything I do with android wear
2016-03-31 13:51:24	toxip	http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26998051/debug-android-wear-device-over-usb
2016-03-31 13:51:34	toxip	I guess I have to do this
2016-03-31 13:52:06	@kido	^~ "are you talking about udev's permission to let adb use the usb port ?" 
2016-03-31 13:52:20	toxip	yeah
2016-03-31 13:52:24	@kido	I believe there is a link about that in the asteroid's wiki
2016-03-31 13:53:24	toxip	that stackoverflow link is more informative
2016-03-31 13:53:33	toxip	has step by step guide how to do it
2016-03-31 13:55:46	toxip	damn, still nothing
2016-03-31 13:59:57	toxip	come on... why u no work T_T
2016-03-31 14:10:36	toxip	this is driving me crazy!
2016-03-31 14:10:59	toxip	I did everything like it asked me to
2016-03-31 14:11:17	@kido	there must be an easy answer but I don't have it
2016-03-31 14:12:28	toxip	I dont have time for this shit....
2016-03-31 14:16:36	TheAppleMan	kido: have you had any issues with building qtwayland recently?
2016-03-31 14:18:13	@kido	it's been a long time I haven't compiled it
2016-03-31 14:18:39	@kido	the meta-qt5's recipe hasn't changed though
2016-03-31 14:19:24	TheAppleMan	does it pull from a git repo?
2016-03-31 14:20:18	@kido	most likely
2016-03-31 14:52:00	toxip	tried on windows but I get cannot stat bad file descriptor :/
2016-03-31 15:02:27	@kido	it's not your day of luck
2016-03-31 15:17:34	toxip	got it!
2016-03-31 15:17:39	toxip	it's running
2016-03-31 15:17:45	toxip	nice, you have some improvements
2016-03-31 15:18:10	toxip	trying to change time but there's no way to accept
2016-03-31 15:19:37	@kido	it's automaticaly saved
2016-03-31 15:19:46	toxip	oh wait, swipe from left works
2016-03-31 15:19:52	@kido	yes
2016-03-31 15:19:58	toxip	nice, now I can use it as a watch :DD
2016-03-31 15:20:19	@kido	the battery life might still be a little bit meh :)
2016-03-31 15:22:46	toxip	yeah >_<
2016-03-31 15:22:55	toxip	and I have my pebble which is more useful atm
2016-03-31 15:23:06	toxip	well, gonna show this to the Jolla guys
2016-03-31 15:23:17	@kido	although the battery life is much better than last time you checked
2016-03-31 15:23:30	toxip	good