2016-05-19 15:06:00	ThymeCypher	oh hi mark
2016-05-19 15:06:56	ThymeCypher	If I'm understanding correctly, if I flash Asteroid, Android Wear will still work, yes/no?
2016-05-19 15:28:36	TheAppleMan	ThymeCypher: yes, you will always have to boot into asteroid using fastboot, if you don't, wear will boot
2016-05-19 15:29:13	ThymeCypher	Sweet. Trying to build now. Doesn't appear to be too friendly with MacOSX.
2016-05-19 15:33:39	TheAppleMan	i don't think we've attempted it on a mac...
2016-05-19 15:36:01	dr_gogeta86	naaa
2016-05-19 15:39:43	ThymeCypher	oe-core seems to be the brick wall currently, trying to modify the build script for Mac support. Oy.
2016-05-19 16:10:07	@kido	hi
2016-05-19 16:10:31	@kido	ThymeCypher: there seems to be a couple of tricks needed to make OE work on OS X http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OEandYourDistro#Using_OpenEmbedded_on_Mac_OS_X
2016-05-19 16:11:41	@kido	if you just want to try it there are prebuilt images online
2016-05-19 16:13:11	@kido	you can also try to build inside a virtual machine, I know it is already long enough outside of a VM but it might save you some time if building on OS X is too tricky
2016-05-19 16:15:06	ThymeCypher	Got further - now I have to deal with the fact that pyinotify does not work on Mac.
2016-05-19 16:15:15	@kido	oh you also contacted me on twitter
2016-05-19 16:15:41	@kido	if you want to help on BLE there are things to do indeed, it is what I'm currently working on
2016-05-19 16:16:02	ThymeCypher	kido: Yes, originally was originally going to try it passively but decided to jump on here instead :)
2016-05-19 16:16:51	@kido	I currently have a proof of concept of a python script acting as a sync daemon on the watch. It uses BlueZ' experimental GATT D-Bus API and I have a begining of android app which connects to the daemon
2016-05-19 16:17:17	@kido	I wrote a first draft of the protocol specs
2016-05-19 16:18:18	@kido	depending on how comfortable you feel with those concepts you could help me right now or wait a couple of weeks when I get more time to get basic things done
2016-05-19 16:19:02	@kido	the first GATT service that will be implemented will be for notifications but I would then like to have a weather service collecting data from time to time and exposing it to a standard QML app
2016-05-19 16:20:07	@kido	if you want to help on the sync client for computers I planned to use QtBluetooth's central mode API which is stable and cross platform so that it can factorize efforts between the PC and SFOS phone
2016-05-19 16:21:38	@kido	that's pretty much it for BLE but if you like the projects there are other area of improvement too, like hardware support (sensors on G Watch have an issue, if we fix this we can get a nice compass app) or QML apps/components/watchfaces development
2016-05-19 16:42:34	ThymeCypher	kido: Once I can find a way to build this, I'll definitely see what I can do to help. Seems like bitbake is the only real issue here, gotta love "cross-platform" code :)
2016-05-19 16:43:33	ThymeCypher	Seeing a lot of people say not to use ipynotify, but looks like the OpenEmbedded team didn't get the memo.
2016-05-19 16:43:34	@kido	alright :) keep us updated
2016-05-19 17:57:17	@kido	hi bugabinga
2016-05-19 18:19:49	M-jon	Oh, speaking of bluetooth - it would be awesome if you could pair the watch to both a PC and phone, and get notifications from/control both simultaneously
2016-05-19 18:20:08	locusf	multipoint ftw
2016-05-19 18:20:11	M-jon	That's something I've not seen other smartwatches do
2016-05-19 18:26:20	@kido	:)
2016-05-19 19:34:01	ThymeCypher	It's possible with BLE, but you would need a PC with BLE support.
2016-05-19 19:34:35	ThymeCypher	It amazes me that Android Wear doesn't use BLE directly, it seems to mix BLE and BT very frequently (More battery drain, less options)
2016-05-19 19:35:15	ThymeCypher	2014 and new MacBooks all support it, and newer PCs have the hardware but Microsoft only just recently added BLE support to the OS.
2016-05-19 19:35:52	ThymeCypher	And even then, not sure how deep it goes - we had a project that broke after Windows Update added more BLE compatibility ;)
2016-05-19 19:39:04	@kido	well, BLE isn't designed the same way as "traditional", it's adapted for some kind of tasks (like exposing an integer from time to time, like an HR monitor) but not for others, you will have a hard time streaming audio on BLE for example
2016-05-19 19:39:23	@kido	I guess it might be the reason why the use normal bt
2016-05-19 19:57:40	ThymeCypher	We've been doing some pretty neat experiments with the capabilities of BLE, aside from video and audio, it's very capable (as long as your system is OK with data loss)
2016-05-19 19:58:54	ThymeCypher	I could see a notification system working over BLE, where an icon can be requested using GATT or standard Bluetooth, but otherwise is cached and made available through advertisements.
2016-05-19 20:00:52	@kido	if you can contribute that kind of things this is really cool :)