2016-07-13 14:24:34	@kido	hi croccio 
2016-07-13 14:24:54	croccio	hi :)
2016-07-13 14:25:52	croccio	i'd like to port asteroidos on samsung gear live
2016-07-13 14:26:00	@kido	so as I was saying on github, if you follow the default instructions you will not *replace* android wear by asteroid
2016-07-13 14:26:24	@kido	it's possible but not mandatory so don't be afraid, there is no risk, your watch will stay safe :)
2016-07-13 14:26:27	croccio	but if i replace it, can i restore android wear?
2016-07-13 14:26:37	croccio	maybe with stock image?
2016-07-13 14:26:55	@kido	as long as you keep backup you will always have access to fastboot (or the tool from samsung)
2016-07-13 14:27:27	@kido	so even if asteroid is broken, you will still be able to boot into "bootloader mode" and re-flash the watch with the OS of your choice
2016-07-13 14:28:02	@kido	but if you decide to decide to wipe android for some reason, always keep a backup
2016-07-13 14:28:44	croccio	great! thank you :D however this evening (i'm italian) i configure my pc with tools to build it
2016-07-13 14:28:49	@kido	anyway, the gear live has a known soc so it should work without *too much* pain
2016-07-13 14:28:58	locusf	:)
2016-07-13 14:29:06	locusf	I've heard that once :D
2016-07-13 14:29:14	@kido	hehe :D
2016-07-13 14:29:46	@kido	locusf: well I'm pretty sure that asus did a shitty job in their msm-hsusb driver and I won't give up
2016-07-13 14:29:57	locusf	ah
2016-07-13 14:30:18	@kido	at least the gear live won't have the same driver
2016-07-13 14:30:19	locusf	I had to look something up
2016-07-13 14:30:30	locusf	for zenwatch android
2016-07-13 14:30:43	@kido	croccio: alright, you can follow the build instructions and while it builds search for your kernel sources online
2016-07-13 14:31:01	@kido	croccio: also unlock your bootloader and get root access on android
2016-07-13 14:31:54	croccio	i have to go now, i'm working. I return here very soon :)
2016-07-13 14:32:05	@kido	alright, have a nice evening and see you later
2016-07-13 14:33:33	@kido	hi SylvieLorxu 
2016-07-13 14:33:41	SylvieLorxu	Hi
2016-07-13 14:33:43	locusf	/sys/kernel/config/usb_gadget/: No such file or directory
2016-07-13 14:34:07	SylvieLorxu	Somehow my IRC client forgot to join this channel, weird
2016-07-13 14:34:09	@kido	locusf: alright, I just wanted to make sure that android didn't use configfs to configure adb
2016-07-13 14:34:16	locusf	ok
2016-07-13 14:34:37	@kido	SylvieLorxu: it's ok :)
2016-07-13 14:38:17	 *	SylvieLorxu must resist making a clockface that uses http://www.comicneue.com/
2016-07-13 14:39:00	@kido	ahah
2016-07-13 14:39:45	@kido	you can do a wathface like this one https://assets.facerepo.com/app/image/preview/f-face-148a2b1c0f6.png?v=148a2b1bf98
2016-07-13 14:40:55	SylvieLorxu	Hahahaha
2016-07-13 14:41:11	SylvieLorxu	Actually, a pure text-based watchface would be pretty cool
2016-07-13 14:41:24	SylvieLorxu	Although I'd prefer to go for something like "Quarter past three" instead, without the swearing :P
2016-07-13 14:42:04	SylvieLorxu	I think I'll indeed write a watchface that just displays the time in words :P
2016-07-13 14:42:45	SylvieLorxu	That would make for 3 pretty standard but usable watchfaces and we'd have enough choice :)
2016-07-13 14:44:00	SylvieLorxu	Also, holy shit it's already two fourty-five. I really ought to get ready to, like, start the day
2016-07-13 14:44:45	@kido	hehe are you in holidays?
2016-07-13 14:45:46	SylvieLorxu	Yup, university will resume at the end of the next month
2016-07-13 14:46:06	@kido	oh I didn't know you were a student
2016-07-13 14:46:59	SylvieLorxu	No way for you to know if I don't tell :P
2016-07-13 14:47:37	@kido	sure :)
2016-07-13 14:47:51	SylvieLorxu	But anyway,
2016-07-13 14:48:02	SylvieLorxu	I think I'll make a word-based watchface
2016-07-13 14:48:07	SylvieLorxu	But with less swearing
2016-07-13 14:48:14	SylvieLorxu	And with less I mean no :P
2016-07-13 14:48:25	SylvieLorxu	Expect another pull request in the coming days :P
2016-07-13 14:48:30	@kido	there is an interesting text watch concept
2016-07-13 14:48:37	@kido	I just need some time to find it again
2016-07-13 14:48:57	SylvieLorxu	Feel free to show me if you find it back
2016-07-13 14:50:33	@kido	http://www.lebonmarche.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/102016333_1.jpg
2016-07-13 14:50:48	SylvieLorxu	Oh that one
2016-07-13 14:50:57	@kido	not sure if it's good enough on a wrist https://ocarat.com/71156-thickbox_default/qlocktwo-w-black-biegert-funk.jpg
2016-07-13 14:50:59	SylvieLorxu	Yeah that's cool but it doesn't really scale down
2016-07-13 14:51:20	SylvieLorxu	Hmm...
2016-07-13 14:51:23	SylvieLorxu	Well it may work
2016-07-13 14:51:37	SylvieLorxu	I'm going to do a plain text first and perhaps experiment with that later
2016-07-13 14:51:39	@kido	anyway it will only work on square screens
2016-07-13 14:52:11	SylvieLorxu	It can work on round screens but there will be some border and I have no round devices to test it on
2016-07-13 14:52:12	@kido	sure, I just wanted to share the idea, you're free to do what you want :)
2016-07-13 14:52:55	@kido	SylvieLorxu: well there is a "simple" way to make asteroid-launcher add a circular overlay
2016-07-13 14:53:11	@kido	I use it to test how the UI feels on other watches
2016-07-13 15:34:06	Asara	 SylvieLorxu I can test shit on my round device
2016-07-13 15:34:12	Asara	urbane baby wuddup
2016-07-13 17:53:49	croccio	is there any way to see history on irc?
2016-07-13 17:54:05	croccio	however i build it for gwatch
2016-07-13 17:54:16	TheAppleMan	i don't think we have a public archive of logs
2016-07-13 17:54:47	TheAppleMan	(hi croccio btw)
2016-07-13 17:54:59	croccio	now i'm settings file for sprat
2016-07-13 17:55:03	croccio	SAMSUNG GEAR LIVE
2016-07-13 17:55:17	croccio	(hi TheAplleMan :D)
2016-07-13 17:55:34	croccio	where i can find value to set in those file?
2016-07-13 17:56:30	croccio	in nano.layer i changed dory with sprat (is it correct?)
2016-07-13 17:56:44	croccio	but in folder machine
2016-07-13 17:57:26	croccio	in "sprat.conf" there are some properties that i don't know hw to set them
2016-07-13 17:57:56	croccio	they are
2016-07-13 17:59:45	croccio	{cpu}.inc (the require), MACHINE_FEATURES, the three ANDROID_BOARD properties
2016-07-13 18:00:14	TheAppleMan	kido: ^
2016-07-13 18:00:59	croccio	what is kido?
2016-07-13 18:01:00	TheAppleMan	these are normally pulled from the spec sheets of the device, but i'm not sure about gear hardware
2016-07-13 18:01:16	croccio	mmmm i'll search it than :D
2016-07-13 18:01:25	croccio	while in android and linux version
2016-07-13 18:01:29	croccio	i sette them so
2016-07-13 18:01:38	croccio	PREFERRED_VERSION_android = "marshmallow-mr1" PREFERRED_VERSION_linux = "3.10+marshmallow-mr1"
2016-07-13 18:01:53	croccio	because here https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/msm/+/android-msm-sprat-3.10-marshmallow-mr1-wear-release
2016-07-13 18:01:58	croccio	it is the latest version
2016-07-13 18:02:02	croccio	it is correct?
2016-07-13 18:05:20	@kido	I'll be back in ~an hour, stay connected ;)
2016-07-13 18:10:05	croccio	it is first time i use irc, if my pc disconnect from the internet, but page still open, someone post message, when my pc connect again i can see message?
2016-07-13 18:11:29	EACFreddy	no, you need to stay connected to see all messages
2016-07-13 18:12:29	croccio	is there any way to recover messages? because i have to go away, and if kido write to me i can't see its messages
2016-07-13 18:14:37	EACFreddy	you can use a bouncer that stays connected for you, but you need to find someone who gives you access to it
2016-07-13 18:15:15	EACFreddy	but you can also just reconnect later, I guess kido will remember you
2016-07-13 18:17:30	Asara	kido will remember you haha
2016-07-13 18:22:10	croccio	ok, but i'm in the other part of the world -.-"
2016-07-13 18:22:43	croccio	:D
2016-07-13 18:47:00	@kido	croccio: most of us are european :)
2016-07-13 18:48:00	croccio	irc says me that you are in Chicago
2016-07-13 18:48:04	croccio	D:
2016-07-13 18:48:26	@kido	you probably see the freenode's server I'm connected to
2016-07-13 18:48:44	@kido	actually I'm french so we live in the same timezone
2016-07-13 18:49:28	croccio	aaaah ok :) i've to go, I'll be back in an hour. i have to disconnect
2016-07-13 18:49:39	@kido	keep require conf/machine/include/tune-cortexa7.inc
2016-07-13 18:49:45	@kido	keep MACHINE_FEATURES
2016-07-13 18:50:00	@kido	BLOCK_SIZE is 131072
2016-07-13 18:50:26	@kido	SYSTEMIMAGE_PARTITION_SIZE is 1073741824
2016-07-13 18:52:02	@kido	and for SYSTEMIMAGE_PARTITION, use adb shell to your rooted android wear and run ls -la /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/system
2016-07-13 18:52:49	@kido	in fact you can just skip the ANDROID_BOARD* values, they are not used anyway
2016-07-13 18:53:52	croccio	how can i get chat history if i disconnect?
2016-07-13 18:54:01	@kido	you have to get a bouncer
2016-07-13 18:55:05	@kido	for your kernel, you should stick to lollipop for now
2016-07-13 18:55:34	@kido	it shouldn't change anything but let's not make things more complicated than they might already been ;)
2016-07-13 18:55:37	@kido	be*
2016-07-13 19:03:18	@kido	hi Lrs121 
2016-07-13 19:03:25	Lrs121	hello
2016-07-13 19:03:48	@kido	mhh I see tat you fixed your link :)
2016-07-13 19:04:00	@kido	I was about to say that the logs you sent me two days ago didn't work
2016-07-13 19:04:15	Lrs121	yah, our isp went down
2016-07-13 19:14:36	@kido	q
2016-07-13 19:18:39	@kido	Lrs121: http://hastebin.com/kikuhihiyu
2016-07-13 19:44:55	@kido	mhh interesting, it seems that ASUS stores previous boot logs in /data/misc/asdf
2016-07-13 19:45:04	@kido	with ASUS_LAST_KMSG
2016-07-13 19:48:15	@kido	then you can also try to "git revert 9fd4f0f114603a32f08f901761bb5da25ef7f7bd"
2016-07-13 19:51:28	@kido	after that you can *try* to set your SRCREV https://github.com/Lrs121/meta-sparrow-hybris/blob/master/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-sparrow_mm-mr1.bb#L15 to 2e2a382ba08ea4ead5e67b182a33f82c0d288b20... it will probably break a lot of things, including your patches, but it *should* boot and if it does we can check if usb works without ASUS crap. if it works (and I really hope so) we can git bisect to find what
2016-07-13 19:51:28	@kido	breaks what and how
2016-07-13 19:56:45	Lrs121	ok, the kernel did compile with that patch. im just waiting on the first full build to finish
2016-07-13 19:58:22	@kido	you just need to fastboot the boot.img in the build directory
2016-07-13 19:58:27	@kido	you don't have to wait for anything else
2016-07-13 19:59:56	Lrs121	no boot.img listed just a zimage. this is the first time a build has ever been run. also i wont be able to test it at work. cant get fastboot access
2016-07-13 20:00:31	Lrs121	sorry initramfs not zimage
2016-07-13 20:02:24	@kido	Lrs121: ok, tell me when you can test it
2016-07-13 20:02:38	@kido	welcome baxk croccio
2016-07-13 20:02:41	Lrs121	will do
2016-07-13 20:02:45	@kido	back*
2016-07-13 20:03:38	croccio	yes :D now i've eat, than i'll try :) ~1h
2016-07-13 20:09:38	SylvieLorxu	Ah, the chat has been silent for 5 minutes
2016-07-13 20:09:43	SylvieLorxu	Time for me to be annoying
2016-07-13 20:10:03	SylvieLorxu	https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid-launcher/pull/2 :D
2016-07-13 20:29:26	@kido	SylvieLorxu: well, I've been thinking about internationalization but I guess there isn't much to do about it
2016-07-13 20:30:05	SylvieLorxu	kido: Shouldn't be too hard, or what do you mean?
2016-07-13 20:30:15	SylvieLorxu	Also, I think my new watchface is draining battery
2016-07-13 20:30:21	SylvieLorxu	Maybe the JS is being called WAY often
2016-07-13 20:30:51	@kido	mhh, I already merged the PR, you can investigate on it and tell me your conclusions
2016-07-13 20:31:01	SylvieLorxu	Merged? :P
2016-07-13 20:31:13	SylvieLorxu	You closed it without merging :P
2016-07-13 20:31:15	@kido	anyway, the time is supposed to be "stopped" for watchfaces when the screen is locked
2016-07-13 20:31:29	SylvieLorxu	Well I am literally constantly tapping the screen
2016-07-13 20:31:31	SylvieLorxu	So maybe it's that xD
2016-07-13 20:31:42	@kido	meh
2016-07-13 20:31:49	@kido	sorry, tired :)
2016-07-13 20:32:10	SylvieLorxu	You know, my silly pull requests can wait :P
2016-07-13 20:32:32	@kido	it's ok :)
2016-07-13 21:22:11	SylvieLorxu	22% battery loss in 30 minutes
2016-07-13 21:22:20	SylvieLorxu	With screen off
2016-07-13 21:22:42	SylvieLorxu	I guess it does keep getting called regardless of the screen state
2016-07-13 21:24:15	@kido	then this doesn't work https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid-launcher/blob/master/qml/MainScreen.qml#L57
2016-07-13 21:26:40	SylvieLorxu	Maybe that has something to do with the not-suspending issues?
2016-07-13 21:28:27	SylvieLorxu	I also see you use onDisplayAboutToBeOff there and onDisplayOff somewhere else
2016-07-13 21:28:54	SylvieLorxu	And resetting to the main screen after turning the display off seems to be working fine
2016-07-13 21:29:53	SylvieLorxu	I suppose we should see what happens if we remove the AboutToBe things in on and off, hmm. Or just me, I could test this easily after all
2016-07-13 21:30:06	SylvieLorxu	Yes let me try :D
2016-07-13 21:30:37	@kido	you can try but those are different things and I remember I used this one for a good reason
2016-07-13 21:30:43	SylvieLorxu	>sh: vi: command not found
2016-07-13 21:30:57	SylvieLorxu	This is not a life worth living :(
2016-07-13 21:31:00	SylvieLorxu	:P
2016-07-13 21:31:05	@kido	bitbake vim
2016-07-13 21:31:06	@kido	:D
2016-07-13 21:31:09	SylvieLorxu	Hmm, I can't find any documentation on the other thing
2016-07-13 21:31:20	SylvieLorxu	Oh, on the image?
2016-07-13 21:31:36	@kido	no in your openembedded build directory
2016-07-13 21:31:53	SylvieLorxu	Yeah okay, meh, am still needing to set that up on this machine
2016-07-13 21:31:56	SylvieLorxu	I'll use nano or so
2016-07-13 21:32:09	SylvieLorxu	...No nano
2016-07-13 21:32:13	@kido	I usualy pull file, change them on my computer and then push them
2016-07-13 21:32:20	SylvieLorxu	And $EDITOR is empty, lol
2016-07-13 21:32:26	SylvieLorxu	Guess that's the only way atm
2016-07-13 21:32:34	@kido	a watch isn't supposed to have fancy tools, I mean, that can be discussed
2016-07-13 21:33:19	locusf	heheh
2016-07-13 21:33:26	locusf	vim with fingerterm interface
2016-07-13 21:33:35	locusf	you just need a pin to press the keys
2016-07-13 21:33:40	SylvieLorxu	I would say vi is very useful to have for debugging purposes, but I get the reasoning
2016-07-13 21:33:42	@kido	:)
2016-07-13 21:34:08	locusf	you do have cat?
2016-07-13 21:34:15	locusf	for read only of course
2016-07-13 21:34:18	SylvieLorxu	cat is there yes
2016-07-13 21:35:28	SylvieLorxu	Even less
2016-07-13 21:36:16	locusf	less is more, more or less
2016-07-13 21:36:20	 *	locusf runs
2016-07-13 21:37:32	@kido	actually I've never been sure about the attitude we should adapt towards those unix tools, either we try to be minimal and only ship a busybox, or we try to be a complete distro and we give everything
2016-07-13 21:38:35	SylvieLorxu	I'd not "give everything" either
2016-07-13 21:38:50	SylvieLorxu	I'd say if you start adding more, add the bare minimum for POSIX compliance
2016-07-13 21:39:05	SylvieLorxu	So no Emacs :P
2016-07-13 21:39:30	SylvieLorxu	But it's only running Busybox now then?
2016-07-13 21:39:31	@kido	locusf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_(Unix) :)
2016-07-13 21:39:38	SylvieLorxu	Kinda surprised Busybox has no editor
2016-07-13 21:39:58	@kido	SylvieLorxu: no we ship coreutils
2016-07-13 21:40:52	SylvieLorxu	Oh I see
2016-07-13 21:42:43	@kido	https://github.com/AsteroidOS/meta-asteroid/blob/master/classes/asteroid-image.bbclass#L7 this can be tweaked here and there is probably a way to make things lighter
2016-07-13 21:43:49	SylvieLorxu	Surely systemd is bigger than vi ;)
2016-07-13 22:09:21	croccio_	i'm trying to root gear live, but the stock image download link is broken (at the moment) and now i'm downloading a rom from xda (not latest android) but it should work. my internet connection is very slow :(/
2016-07-13 22:09:36	croccio_	* stock image rooted
2016-07-13 22:10:31	@kido	anyway, getting blobs from a 5.1.1 image is advised
2016-07-13 22:12:47	croccio_	ops it is older version
2016-07-13 22:13:06	croccio_	on xda there is a tool for windows
2016-07-13 22:13:12	croccio_	i haven't windows :|
2016-07-13 22:13:29	croccio_	did you know if there is another way to root?
2016-07-13 22:13:58	croccio_	i've a mac with ubuntu on parallels
2016-07-13 22:14:40	@kido	as far as I can remember, I flashed the supersu zip file from twrp
2016-07-13 22:14:51	@kido	but this is not my domain I don't know about it
2016-07-13 22:19:50	croccio_	i'll try to find it on xdc from other device :) thank for help :)
2016-07-13 22:19:55	croccio_	*xda
2016-07-13 22:22:01	Lrs121	croccio: can you pass usb devices through parallels?
2016-07-13 22:31:43	croccio_	yes
2016-07-13 22:36:13	Lrs121	you can install fastboot and adb throught apt in ubuntu. those should be the tools you need.
2016-07-13 22:36:54	Lrs121	pass the usb connection to the watch through to ubuntu, and boot or flash (i dont know what is required for the image you downloaded)
2016-07-13 22:37:23	Lrs121	the rooted image
2016-07-13 22:37:50	croccio_	i've found supersu
2016-07-13 22:38:02	croccio_	and twrp
2016-07-13 22:38:14	croccio_	now i'm doing first sync to flash them :)
2016-07-13 22:38:58	SylvieLorxu	kido: Changing onDisplayAboutToBeOn to onDisplayOn and onDisplayAboutToBeOff to onDisplayOff at https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid-launcher/blob/master/qml/MainScreen.qml#L57-L61 lowered the battery loss from 22% per 30 minutes to 4% per 30 minutes for me. I do note that, after this change, when I tap the watch the old time is displayed for a split second and it only updates to the current time after
2016-07-13 22:39:00	SylvieLorxu	that
2016-07-13 22:39:14	SylvieLorxu	I'm going to change it back to AboutToBe now to check again just to be sure
2016-07-13 22:40:21	Lrs121	croccio: sounds good
2016-07-13 22:45:37	croccio_	Lrs121: oh yeah :)
2016-07-13 22:58:20	croccio	i'm rooting it :)
2016-07-13 23:04:20	SylvieLorxu	kido: Actually, nevermind, battery usage is equal with the onDisplayAboutToBe... settings. Guess the watch bugged out for some other reason
2016-07-13 23:04:41	SylvieLorxu	No clue what caused it, next time I shouldn't reboot but save the output of top somewhere
2016-07-13 23:07:35	@kido	SylvieLorxu: alright :)
2016-07-13 23:10:05	croccio	gear live has squashfs and cannot edit it from recovery
2016-07-13 23:10:13	croccio	i'll try to do it tomorrow
2016-07-13 23:10:29	@kido	SylvieLorxu: also, I forgot to tell you that you should add your watchface's files to the watchfaces target in the .pro of asteroid-launcher https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid-launcher/blob/master/asteroid-launcher.pro#L14
2016-07-13 23:10:36	croccio	because gear live mod isn't very active
2016-07-13 23:10:38	@kido	croccio: what do you mean?
2016-07-13 23:11:09	SylvieLorxu	kido: Oh, okay. I'll send a pull request in a bit
2016-07-13 23:11:20	croccio	squashfs cannot write
2016-07-13 23:11:22	croccio	is read only
2016-07-13 23:11:40	croccio	on dory (lg g watch) has been made a tarp compatible
2016-07-13 23:11:45	@kido	what partitions uses sqhashfs?
2016-07-13 23:11:47	croccio	*twrp
2016-07-13 23:12:50	croccio_	for dory
2016-07-13 23:13:04	croccio_	has been made specific twrp
2016-07-13 23:13:14	croccio_	system is squashfs
2016-07-13 23:13:26	croccio_	for gear live it hasn't made
2016-07-13 23:13:53	croccio_	*hasn't been made
2016-07-13 23:14:02	SylvieLorxu	https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid-launcher/pull/3
2016-07-13 23:14:04	@kido	https://twrp.me/devices/samsunggearlive.html doesn't that work?
2016-07-13 23:14:29	@kido	SylvieLorxu: :)
2016-07-13 23:15:32	croccio_	kido: no
2016-07-13 23:16:46	croccio_	my connection is unstable
2016-07-13 23:17:04	@kido	you should install a real irc client
2016-07-13 23:17:23	croccio_	i never use irc
2016-07-13 23:17:31	croccio_	i don't know how it works
2016-07-13 23:17:51	croccio_	why you chose irc and not slack (for example)?
2016-07-13 23:18:46	@kido	http://sircmpwn.github.io/2015/11/01/Please-stop-using-slack.html
2016-07-13 23:18:54	Asara	croccio_: IRC == freedom
2016-07-13 23:18:56	SylvieLorxu	IRC is an official standard and has been around for ages, it has proven to last the test of time
2016-07-13 23:19:15	SylvieLorxu	It also prevents one big company from going "Screw this" and forcing us to panicly move somewhere else
2016-07-13 23:19:28	SylvieLorxu	And on top of that, even Slack recommends against using Slack for things like this
2016-07-13 23:20:09	Asara	During the media blackout during teh fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, people used IRC to get communications across the boarders.
2016-07-13 23:20:14	@kido	moreover, most of the free software enthusiasts are already on freenode
2016-07-13 23:20:46	SylvieLorxu	croccio_: If you care about being able to stay online and read everything, you probably want to use a "bouncer"
2016-07-13 23:21:00	SylvieLorxu	I see two Matrix people in here, I wonder if Matrix works as a bouncer for IRC
2016-07-13 23:21:12	croccio_	ah, i don't know
2016-07-13 23:21:29	croccio_	i'm 22 years old, so i never use it and never see
2016-07-13 23:21:50	croccio_	did you use it?
2016-07-13 23:21:51	SylvieLorxu	I'm 23 years old and I've used IRC since... 13 or so?
2016-07-13 23:22:50	croccio_	my colleague talk about IRC today
2016-07-13 23:23:16	Asara	I'm 25 and have used it since I was like 15
2016-07-13 23:23:16	croccio_	tomorrow i'll try to ask him for a "bouncer"
2016-07-13 23:23:19	@kido	I'm 19 and used it since I was 11, when people tell me to use slack in order to "enter in the XXIth" century it makes me laugh :)
2016-07-13 23:23:22	Asara	ZNC is a good bouncer
2016-07-13 23:23:35	Asara	You can use Matrix as a bouncer yes SylvieLorxu
2016-07-13 23:24:58	SylvieLorxu	Slack isn't even that good
2016-07-13 23:25:19	Asara	slack is shit
2016-07-13 23:25:20	Asara	fuck slack
2016-07-13 23:25:23	SylvieLorxu	Have you ever tried using Slack over a throttled connection?
2016-07-13 23:25:23	Asara	I hate slack so much
2016-07-13 23:25:27	SylvieLorxu	Hint: It doesn't work
2016-07-13 23:25:30	SylvieLorxu	Does IRC work?
2016-07-13 23:25:32	SylvieLorxu	Duh, of course
2016-07-13 23:25:46	SylvieLorxu	Also, dammit me
2016-07-13 23:25:55	SylvieLorxu	By adding these two watchfaces
2016-07-13 23:26:07	SylvieLorxu	I have put myself in a state where I have to choose between 3 options I all like
2016-07-13 23:26:18	@kido	anyway, let's not turn this channel into a slack troll
2016-07-13 23:26:27	SylvieLorxu	You mean a Slack flamewar
2016-07-13 23:26:30	SylvieLorxu	:P
2016-07-13 23:26:49	SylvieLorxu	Trolling would be saying that Slack is more reliable than IRC ;)
2016-07-13 23:26:51	 *	SylvieLorxu hides
2016-07-13 23:27:10	@kido	SylvieLorxu: crap, you're stuck into this problem called "freedom", you should come back to a proprietary system that chooses watchfaces for you
2016-07-13 23:27:33	@kido	right
2016-07-13 23:27:47	SylvieLorxu	I could hack up AsteroidOS to show another watchface every time I tap the screen
2016-07-13 23:27:53	SylvieLorxu	So I can be confused all the time
2016-07-13 23:28:02	SylvieLorxu	And unable to read how late it is quickly
2016-07-13 23:30:01	Asara	lmao
2016-07-13 23:32:19	croccio_	guys good night, see you tomorrow :) thanks for help, i hope to solve my problem so i also can "play" :)
2016-07-13 23:32:29	@kido	good night croccio_ 
2016-07-13 23:32:43	SylvieLorxu	Bye