2016-07-24 01:02:44	@kido	babadoo: well there isn't much you can read about libhybris anywhere and you will probably not need a very deep understanding of OE but there might be good ressources on the internet
2016-07-24 11:45:05	SylvieLorxu	kido: We've been approved :D https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/asteroidos/
2016-07-24 11:45:38	@kido	SylvieLorxu: great ! thanks again :)
2016-07-24 11:46:20	SylvieLorxu	kido: .desktop files aren't supported, but the .ts files are. We just need to set this up: https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/admin/continuous.html#github-setup
2016-07-24 11:46:32	SylvieLorxu	I'll have to ask you to do that as I'm not a collaborator on those repos ^^"
2016-07-24 11:46:49	@kido	sure, I'll do that in the afternoon
2016-07-24 11:48:00	SylvieLorxu	Also https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/admin/continuous.html#pushing-changes-from-hosted-weblate if you want Weblate to automatically push its translation updates to the repos so you don't have to manually pull and merge them, but that's a decision you have to make yourself (it's easier, but it does give a third-party web service push access to the repo)
2016-07-24 11:49:36	@kido	I think we can use that
2016-07-24 11:50:49	SylvieLorxu	I personally would, saves a lot of time
2016-07-24 11:50:55	SylvieLorxu	And Weblate is a pretty trusted service
2016-07-24 11:52:57	SylvieLorxu	I'll soon go and send a pull request to update the README of Alarm Clock and Settings with translation instructions
2016-07-24 11:53:27	@kido	no that should go to the wiki :)
2016-07-24 11:54:31	SylvieLorxu	Well, I understand the Wiki, but it's one of those parts where you'd like non-technical outsiders to contribute for which the README seems a much better place but okay, if you prefer it in the Wiki I'll write up a Wiki page for it
2016-07-24 11:55:15	SylvieLorxu	Wiki is indeed cleaner though, so yeah sure
2016-07-24 11:59:13	@kido	I tend to believe that the wiki is much more read than READMEs :)
2016-07-24 11:59:27	@kido	and by non technical persons
2016-07-24 12:08:53	SylvieLorxu	How does https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid/wiki/Translating-AsteroidOS sound?
2016-07-24 12:11:54	@kido	looks good :)
2016-07-24 12:12:40	SylvieLorxu	Cool, may want to link "translating AsteroidOS" on http://asteroidos.org/community/ to that page to make it easier to find
2016-07-24 12:13:35	@kido	I added it to the wiki's sidebar
2016-07-24 12:13:46	@kido	and for the website, I need to change it anyway
2016-07-24 12:14:06	SylvieLorxu	Haha, you beat me to it by seconds
2016-07-24 12:14:12	@kido	the new website is quite nice but I need to fill it with new content
2016-07-24 12:14:17	SylvieLorxu	I got a really weird error from GitHub xD
2016-07-24 12:15:51	@kido	:)
2016-07-24 12:16:05	SylvieLorxu	Well, Weblate picked up an empty French translation for Alarm Clock, yay, it's all working
2016-07-24 12:17:03	SylvieLorxu	By the way, if you have a Weblate account, I can add you as co-owner to AsteroidOS' Weblate
2016-07-24 12:18:12	@kido	I signed up with github
2016-07-24 12:18:56	SylvieLorxu	Okay, I think I added you as owner
2016-07-24 12:20:55	@kido	mhh I don't know how to check it
2016-07-24 12:21:23	SylvieLorxu	Tools -> Manage Users
2016-07-24 12:21:31	SylvieLorxu	I don't even know if being owner really does anything at this point
2016-07-24 12:21:39	SylvieLorxu	But it just seems good to have you in that list
2016-07-24 12:22:29	@kido	yep, looks good
2016-07-24 12:25:36	SylvieLorxu	Please tell me when you've added weblate as a collaborator to the repos, I'll mail the Weblate maintainer to enable pushing then :)
2016-07-24 12:26:16	@kido	right
2016-07-24 12:31:25	@kido	SylvieLorxu: done
2016-07-24 12:32:29	SylvieLorxu	kido: To both asteroid-alarmclock and asteroid-settings, right?
2016-07-24 12:32:38	@kido	yes
2016-07-24 12:32:48	SylvieLorxu	Okay
2016-07-24 12:35:57	SylvieLorxu	Mail sent :)
2016-07-24 12:36:10	SylvieLorxu	So we'll probably magically see a French translation appear soon
2016-07-24 12:36:45	@kido	nice, I'll publish a tweet asking for people to translate when everythings works correctly
2016-07-24 12:36:53	@kido	and that I will have updated the website
2016-07-24 12:37:29	SylvieLorxu	Sure :)
2016-07-24 13:04:12	SylvieLorxu	kido: Pushing has been enabled
2016-07-24 13:04:33	SylvieLorxu	Yup, I see it already updated asteroid-settings :)
2016-07-24 13:05:01	@kido	nice, it's working great
2016-07-24 13:05:25	SylvieLorxu	Yeah. Shame about the fact that we need to edit the .desktop files manually
2016-07-24 13:05:33	SylvieLorxu	But aside that, all is awesome
2016-07-24 13:06:02	@kido	what about the other solution you told me about? desktop -> po -> desktop
2016-07-24 13:08:17	SylvieLorxu	Something with intltool, haven't taken a look into that yet, not sure if Weblate will support both .ts and .po files and it will require us to add an extra file to the repository and complicate the build process a bit, but not much: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/trans/2009-August/006051.html
2016-07-24 13:13:01	@kido	that could do the trick indeed
2016-07-24 16:54:55	RR101	Hi, community. Good Day.
2016-07-24 17:07:11	RR101	Asteroid OS have support in spanish?
2016-07-24 17:07:58	@kido	hi RR101 
2016-07-24 17:08:09	@kido	SylvieLorxu: ^~
2016-07-24 17:08:11	SylvieLorxu	RR101: Not yet, but we actually managed to add support for multiple languages recently. If you would be willing to help us translate it to Spanish we could surely set everything up for you :)
2016-07-24 17:10:15	RR101	Let's begin. I can translate from English to Spanish the whole text.
2016-07-24 17:11:49	RR101	SylvieLorxu: Give me directions to follow.
2016-07-24 17:12:41	SylvieLorxu	RR101: Please go to https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/asteroidos/ and, if you don't have a Weblate account yet, register one
2016-07-24 17:13:22	SylvieLorxu	After that, you can click Alarm Clock or Settings and in the "Start new translation" box click Spanish and then press "Start new translation"
2016-07-24 17:14:29	SylvieLorxu	Unfortunately, the app names aren't translatable through Weblate so it would be great if you could give me the translation of the following words here on IRC: "Alarm Clock", "Calculator", "Calendar", "Settings", "Stopwatch" and "Timer"
2016-07-24 17:17:03	SylvieLorxu	kido: You're going to get a lot of pull requests when I get these word names. You may want to consider giving me push access to the apps if you're expecting many translators, unless you prefer accepting lots of pull requests :P
2016-07-24 17:18:53	RR101	SylvieLorxu: Great, give me a minute.
2016-07-24 17:19:21	@kido	well they are easy to review, I can also push it myself if needed, we will see how it goes :)
2016-07-24 17:20:06	SylvieLorxu	kido: We'll need a small few changes anyway. Turns out weblate makes .fr.ts files and I made .nl_NL.ts files. For consistency we'll have to rename the Dutch files
2016-07-24 17:20:26	@kido	alright
2016-07-24 17:20:26	SylvieLorxu	kido: And probably update https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid-settings/blob/master/asteroid-settings.pro#L36 to just use *.ts
2016-07-24 17:20:45	SylvieLorxu	Because we don't want to update every app for every new language :P
2016-07-24 17:23:51	RR101	SylvieLorxu: Reloj Despertador - Alarm Clock Calculadora - Calculator Calendario - Calendar Ajustes - Settings Cronometro - Stopwatch Temporizador - Timer
2016-07-24 17:24:14	SylvieLorxu	RR101: Thanks!
2016-07-24 17:30:00	@kido	RR101: please could you also translate Weather?
2016-07-24 17:30:14	@kido	I will need it shortly
2016-07-24 17:30:33	SylvieLorxu	kido: For what it's worth, the Dutch translation of Weather is "Weer"
2016-07-24 17:30:45	@kido	thank you :)
2016-07-24 17:31:17	RR101	kido: / Clima - Weather
2016-07-24 17:31:28	@kido	thank you
2016-07-24 17:47:31	RR101	SylvieLorxu: The web page shows me the error: "Failed to add a new translation file!" when I want to create a translation for settings.
2016-07-24 17:50:10	SylvieLorxu	RR101: Oh, that may be because I recently pushed a few changes there. I would assume it to start working soon. If you're not in a hurry, would you mind trying again in 15 minutes or so? Otherwise I'll just manually create it
2016-07-24 17:51:47	RR101	SylvieLorxu: Yeah, I do not worry, I to have the time.
2016-07-24 18:08:53	SylvieLorxu	Oh. My. God. I realized what I messed up
2016-07-24 18:09:35	SylvieLorxu	kido: Okay, Weblate has one issue with translations
2016-07-24 18:10:26	SylvieLorxu	kido: It seems unable to create a new translation file because I changed the .pro file, but if I wouldn't have changed it we would need to edit it for each language Weblate adds
2016-07-24 18:10:31	SylvieLorxu	At least, I think that's the case
2016-07-24 18:10:33	SylvieLorxu	I may be wrong
2016-07-24 18:11:43	@kido	mhh I don't think that weblate the .pro file
2016-07-24 18:11:50	SylvieLorxu	No, actually, I think it doesn't
2016-07-24 18:11:53	@kido	I'm not familiar with this kind of tools but it would surprise me
2016-07-24 18:11:53	SylvieLorxu	Hmm, this is weird
2016-07-24 18:12:38	SylvieLorxu	I'll just manually add an empty Spanish file and hope Weblate picks that up
2016-07-24 18:13:31	SylvieLorxu	It's no big deal anyway as we need to manually contact translators about the app names
2016-07-24 18:13:49	SylvieLorxu	RR101: I've manually added Spanish to https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/asteroidos/settings/, sorry for the issue, not sure why that happened
2016-07-24 18:16:04	RR101	SylvieLorxu: No problem, We are going to continue.
2016-07-24 18:22:33	SylvieLorxu	Great :)
2016-07-24 18:37:00	RR101	SylvieLorxu: I finished.
2016-07-24 18:38:26	SylvieLorxu	RR101: Great! If everything has gone well, everyone that builds AsteroidOS from source now will get Spanish language support with it :)
2016-07-24 18:38:35	SylvieLorxu	Thank you so much for your help!
2016-07-24 18:39:40	RR101	SylvieLorxu: What else I can help?
2016-07-24 18:40:13	SylvieLorxu	Don't know, maybe kido has some suggestions
2016-07-24 18:40:56	@kido	just wrote the new "get involved" page
2016-07-24 18:41:02	@kido	https://wiki.asteroidos.org/community/
2016-07-24 18:41:12	SylvieLorxu	>Your connection is not secure
2016-07-24 18:41:14	SylvieLorxu	:P
2016-07-24 18:41:30	SylvieLorxu	You forgot to add wiki.asteroidos.org to the certificate :P
2016-07-24 18:41:31	@kido	meh, yes the server isn't migrated yet
2016-07-24 18:41:47	@kido	this subdomain won't be kept
2016-07-24 18:41:52	 *	SylvieLorxu accepts it FOR THIS TIME
2016-07-24 18:41:54	SylvieLorxu	:P
2016-07-24 18:42:07	@kido	I just started the new website here but it will be moved
2016-07-24 18:42:41	SylvieLorxu	Yeah sure that Community list sounds okay
2016-07-24 18:43:08	RR101	SylvieLorxu: To let me know, I'm a digital graphic designer, specializing in graphical interfaces to users.
2016-07-24 18:43:12	@kido	I only need to polish the "documentation" page and the website should be done
2016-07-24 18:43:33	@kido	RR101: good, we are in the process of re-desiging asteroid
2016-07-24 18:44:10	@kido	I can put you in touch with "our designer"
2016-07-24 18:44:15	SylvieLorxu	Oh, I love that new site
2016-07-24 18:44:31	@kido	RR101: and she is currently traveling in spain hehe :) maybe you could meet
2016-07-24 18:45:24	SylvieLorxu	Well, aside from the small issues with being responsive but I'm sure you're aware of those. Anyway, cool stuff :)
2016-07-24 18:45:35	ledixus	SylvieLorxu: http://paste.debian.net/784561
2016-07-24 18:45:43	ledixus	tried to compile asteroid on a clean debian 8.5
2016-07-24 18:46:25	SylvieLorxu	That is probably my fault indeed
2016-07-24 18:46:41	@kido	what responsive problems do you notice? I tried to chase down those bugs
2016-07-24 18:47:05	@kido	s@chase down@hunt down@
2016-07-24 18:47:11	SylvieLorxu	kido: The homepage, the watch and so at the top
2016-07-24 18:47:22	@kido	mhh here it scales just right
2016-07-24 18:47:30	@kido	when the screen is too small the watch disapear
2016-07-24 18:48:18	SylvieLorxu	kido: Oh actually that's fine yeah, the text is just against the logo on the top sometimes
2016-07-24 18:48:45	SylvieLorxu	ledixus: Yup, I inded broke that by changing the .pro files. My bad >.<
2016-07-24 18:49:16	RR101	kido: I would love to contact me with the project designer, I have a proposal for the redesign of UI / UX.
2016-07-24 18:49:44	@kido	okay, send me an email at revestflo@gmail.com and I will put you in the loop
2016-07-24 18:55:32	SylvieLorxu	ledixus: This patch should fix it: https://github.com/AsteroidOS/meta-asteroid/pull/8
2016-07-24 18:55:46	SylvieLorxu	I'm terribly sorry for breaking this, I'm clearly being overeager at contributing and not careful enough
2016-07-24 18:57:36	@kido	it's alright, the only way not to break things is to do nothing
2016-07-24 18:57:49	SylvieLorxu	Heh, that's true
2016-07-24 18:58:52	ledixus	SylvieLorxu: that fixed it ;)
2016-07-24 18:59:29	SylvieLorxu	Well at least I can also fix what I break, that's good :D
2016-07-24 18:59:39	ledixus	hehe
2016-07-24 19:06:54	RR101	kido: E-mail sent.
2016-07-24 19:07:33	@kido	I got it, I will send a message to bebecede and could you explain more in detail the concept behind your mockup?
2016-07-24 19:16:24	RR101	kido: Each section is a selectable option. The center circle (1) applies to switch to another window, with additional sections, is a selection menu divided into 4 sections that expands and contracts. In the concept, the visual elements appear in several directions, shrink or expand to appear to disappear, you can call Expansive-IU. Adaptively for circular and square screens.
2016-07-24 19:18:08	@kido	nice, this is very similar to something I described to bebecede
2016-07-24 19:20:43	RR101	kido: Expansive-UI is an innovative concept to develop a subtle, elegant and functional UI and smartwatch designed for small screens.
2016-07-24 19:21:44	RR101	kido: It is different from what we know, for example, the UI of Android Wear, Tizen and Apple Watch. It has its own identity.
2016-07-24 19:23:16	@kido	I still have some issue visualizing all of this but I find the concept interesting
2016-07-24 19:35:04	@kido	RR101: check your mailbox
2016-07-24 19:54:42	RR101	kido: Thanks, I reply shortly.
2016-07-24 20:12:10	@kido	hi babadoo 
2016-07-24 20:12:11	babadoo	hey
2016-07-24 20:33:29	@kido	so, if anyone is up for mistakes hunting on the new website it's available here https://wiki.asteroidos.org/ I think we should be able to migrate during the week
2016-07-24 20:47:37	RR101	kido: Reply sent. Tankyou.
2016-07-24 20:54:59	@kido	nice, you might have to wait for a bit before she replies since she doesn't have access to good internet yet
2016-07-24 20:55:06	@kido	but you will be kept updated
2016-07-24 20:56:16	SylvieLorxu	kido: Personally, on the new homepage, I'd like the h1 heading for the "Hack your wrist" slogan to be "margin-top: 20px" with no margin-bottom instead of margin-bottom: 30px so that the text isn't so high against the menu, especially on mobile, but that's a minor thing
2016-07-24 20:56:40	@kido	alright, let me see
2016-07-24 20:57:41	SylvieLorxu	And there's a type on https://wiki.asteroidos.org/install/ in the Sony Smartwatch 3 part: "has a an initial support" should just be "has initial support"
2016-07-24 20:59:03	SylvieLorxu	Aside from that I really like it
2016-07-24 20:59:17	@kido	thanks, I'll correct that too
2016-07-24 21:01:36	@kido	should be better now
2016-07-24 21:05:48	SylvieLorxu	Yeah, thanks :)
2016-07-24 21:12:32	kl3	I heard you need a german translation?
2016-07-24 21:12:51	SylvieLorxu	kl3: Nobody did German yet so you can be the first if you want to :)
2016-07-24 21:13:15	SylvieLorxu	Do you have a Weblate account already?
2016-07-24 21:13:21	kl3	Nope
2016-07-24 21:13:24	RR101	I like the design of the wiki, you can make of asteroidos.org in the same way. It takes a link from the official page toward the wiki.
2016-07-24 21:13:25	kl3	Do I need one?
2016-07-24 21:14:03	SylvieLorxu	Well, it's probably the easiest way, although manually use the QT Translation tooling is possible too
2016-07-24 21:14:22	@kido	hi kl3 
2016-07-24 21:14:24	SylvieLorxu	Or just lupdate together with vim :P
2016-07-24 21:14:31	SylvieLorxu	Which I did, but yeah, to each their own
2016-07-24 21:14:39	SylvieLorxu	I just generally mention Weblate first because it's simplest
2016-07-24 21:14:53	kl3	What's lupdate?
2016-07-24 21:15:13	@kido	RR101: actually this is not really the wiki, this will be the new website
2016-07-24 21:15:15	kl3	kido: Hi
2016-07-24 21:15:17	SylvieLorxu	A QT application that generates a new xml-like language file
2016-07-24 21:15:48	SylvieLorxu	But that does require you to install additional software and so, Weblate is definitely the easiest solution
2016-07-24 21:15:53	kl3	I don't have Qt installed so I'll try the website. SylvieLorxu, link?
2016-07-24 21:16:03	SylvieLorxu	kl3: https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/asteroidos/
2016-07-24 21:16:15	SylvieLorxu	Tell me if it won't allow you to start a new translation
2016-07-24 21:16:20	kl3	ok
2016-07-24 21:17:11	SylvieLorxu	Also, because .desktop files are not supported by Weblate, could you tell me the translations for the following app names over IRC? "Alarm Clock", "Calculator", "Calendar", "Settings", "Stopwatch", "Timer"
2016-07-24 21:18:03	SylvieLorxu	Oh, and "Weather", kido wants to know that one :)
2016-07-24 21:21:16	babadoo	SylvieLorxu: Wecker, Rechner, Kalender, Einstellungen, Stoppuhr, Timer, Wetter
2016-07-24 21:21:54	kl3	babadoo: I was about to send the exact same message :)
2016-07-24 21:22:34	babadoo	QA passed, then ;-)
2016-07-24 21:27:00	RR101	SylvieLorxu: Because the name Asteroid?
2016-07-24 21:29:04	@kido	?
2016-07-24 21:29:36	SylvieLorxu	babadoo: Thanks for those :)
2016-07-24 21:32:31	kl3	SylvieLorxu: "Failed to add new translation file!"
2016-07-24 21:32:49	RR101	kido: What was the inspiration for the name, it is a curious question.
2016-07-24 21:33:39	babadoo	SylvieLorxu: will do some german translations when you need more, if kl3 is busy
2016-07-24 21:35:17	@kido	RR101: I had quite a lot of "os" projects since I was very young and since I also like astronomy I always chose astronomy-related names for those projects
2016-07-24 21:35:55	@kido	and when I realized that asteroid looked like android+steroid I just chose that :)
2016-07-24 21:36:10	kl3	kido: Nice indeed
2016-07-24 21:36:38	@kido	later on, I had to add the "OS" suffix to make it more easily findable on search engines, although I don't like this a lot
2016-07-24 21:36:45	kl3	So is AsteroidOS based on Android?
2016-07-24 21:36:51	@kido	no
2016-07-24 21:36:55	 *	kl3 doesn't have a clue
2016-07-24 21:37:13	@kido	it's more comparable to sailfishos for example
2016-07-24 21:37:22	@kido	it's a real GNU/Linux distribution
2016-07-24 21:37:26	@kido	with wayland and qt
2016-07-24 21:38:14	RR101	Yes Very Nice, my company is Andra, many letters "A". Haha (Y)
2016-07-24 21:38:41	SylvieLorxu	kido: No clue why Weblate has these issues now, but you should be able to translate the Alarm Clock
2016-07-24 21:39:38	SylvieLorxu	Sorry, kl3
2016-07-24 21:39:50	SylvieLorxu	Settings is ready for translation now too
2016-07-24 21:39:51	kl3	SylvieLorxu: Will try
2016-07-24 21:51:49	SylvieLorxu	kido: Don't forget to add the French app name translations once ;)
2016-07-24 21:52:21	@kido	sure, I will do
2016-07-24 21:53:22	kl3	SylvieLorxu: There you go
2016-07-24 21:55:00	SylvieLorxu	kl3: Cool, thanks. I left a comment on the translation needing review, but I suppose babadoo will double-check those anyway :)
2016-07-24 21:55:11	kl3	Ok :)
2016-07-24 21:55:49	SylvieLorxu	So, we went from 1 to 5 languages in 2 days, pretty sweet :)
2016-07-24 21:55:49	babadoo	i every case i will check that there are zero errors, i mean zero! :-)
2016-07-24 21:56:17	SylvieLorxu	Although I think I'll have to mail the Weblate dev why Weblate gives that error >.<