2016-07-25 08:18:54	@kido	hi Praveen
2016-07-25 08:19:12	@kido	interested in asteroid ? ;)
2016-07-25 08:20:13	Praveen	yes
2016-07-25 08:20:29	Praveen	I work in Android
2016-07-25 08:20:59	Praveen	just checking how can I make use of Asteroid for Android wearables
2016-07-25 09:04:05	TheAppleMan	kido: yes if it ever arrives here :)
2016-07-25 09:10:40	TheAppleMan	although I'm planning to go to the US soon so maybe I can pick one (/some) up there XD
2016-07-25 09:14:48	@kido	nice :D
2016-07-25 09:14:52	@kido	did you alredy order it?
2016-07-25 09:16:36	locusf	I probably order a gwatch urbane :p
2016-07-25 09:16:48	locusf	due zw being a pita
2016-07-25 09:16:52	@kido	ah that would be nice :)
2016-07-25 09:17:03	@kido	meh I'm so disapointed by this zenwatch :(
2016-07-25 09:17:18	locusf	yeah I wanna help you out on actual development :)
2016-07-25 09:17:32	@kido	maybe one you get your urbane you could send me your zw and I can give it a look myself and send it back to you
2016-07-25 09:17:35	@kido	it's up to you
2016-07-25 09:17:47	locusf	sure that works
2016-07-25 09:17:53	@kido	depending on the outcomes of the zenwatch 2 too
2016-07-25 09:17:58	locusf	yeah
2016-07-25 09:19:03	@kido	by the way locusf I don't know if you noticed this https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid/wiki/Translating-AsteroidOS but maybe you could find some time to translate the current strings to finnish?
2016-07-25 09:19:21	@kido	in fact, there isn't much to translate for now, it takes a couple of minutes
2016-07-25 09:19:49	locusf	can do
2016-07-25 09:19:59	@kido	you don't have to do it now though
2016-07-25 18:27:37	RR101	kido: Hi, I'm waiting emilia response to coordinate the design plan.
2016-07-25 18:28:23	@kido	as I told you she is in holidays and doesn't have access to a proper internet connection ;)
2016-07-25 18:28:30	@kido	you will have to wait
2016-07-25 19:11:26	RR101	kido: I have a pack of icons i want to share whit you.
2016-07-25 19:12:00	@kido	:)
2016-07-25 19:12:10	@kido	then share
2016-07-25 19:13:50	RR101	kido: What is the email address to send?
2016-07-25 19:14:15	@kido	you can upload it somewhere and share it on the IRC channel so that everyone can see what we are talking about
2016-07-25 19:17:13	RR101	kido: Icons will be useful to build the menu icons and other graphics applications signals.
2016-07-25 19:21:56	RR101	kido: http://www.pastefile.com/mh9D6k
2016-07-25 19:24:27	@kido	mhh some of them are nice indeed, but I still prefer the one we already use: http://ionicons.com/
2016-07-25 19:28:49	RR101	kido: Beautiful.
2016-07-25 19:28:55	RR101	=)
2016-07-25 19:29:57	@kido	they look more polished, the license is clearly open source and there are more available
2016-07-25 19:30:21	@kido	hence my choice towards it (this was chosen with the community btw)
2016-07-25 19:39:46	RR101	kido: Thanks, I wanted a collection of icons to work on mockups.
2016-07-25 19:39:59	@kido	alright
2016-07-25 20:24:08	RR101	kido: You have Android device?
2016-07-25 20:25:28	@kido	yes, why?
2016-07-25 20:25:52	RR101	I want to show you something.
2016-07-25 20:36:02	RR101	what version of android you have?
2016-07-25 20:42:38	RR101	kido: Your operating system may be the foundation to build something bigger, to let you know what we're doing, I share the alpha version of our application.
2016-07-25 20:47:50	RR101	Joining forces to launch the product.
2016-07-25 20:52:33	@kido	sorry but I'm just not interested ;)
2016-07-25 20:54:38	RR101	It is built with support from the open source community.
2016-07-25 20:55:28	RR101	kido: All you have to do is keep doing what you are doing. ;)
2016-07-25 20:59:14	RR101	By pushing this community, I'm pushing my own idea. And vice vers
2016-07-25 21:01:07	SylvieLorxu	RR101: Here's a tip: speak more openly. You're being extremely vague and there's a feeling of secrecy behind all your stuff which isn't generally liked in an Free Software/Open Source community, especially not one that is GPL-oriented
2016-07-25 21:08:57	RR101	SylvieLorxu: To paraphrase Richard Stallman "A Microsoft, Google, Samsung, does not like to escape His power." I try to escape from the high power in behalf of the initiative of open source and free software. I send a description in more detail the project leader, I am being open to answer each question, I can send you a copy if desired.
2016-07-25 21:12:38	RR101	So i help at what else can in the construction of this operating system focused on smartwatchs, even when receiving disinterested project leader regarding my idea.
2016-07-25 21:16:52	SylvieLorxu	Why not just share pictures here and let the whole community discuss? In the open is very much the way in Open Source communities
2016-07-25 21:18:34	SylvieLorxu	I added the support for multiple languages to AsteroidOS and I just discussed everything in here as well so anyone could chime in
2016-07-25 21:26:51	babadoo	hasta la vista asteroidos! thought about a nice twist in the reception of the name asteroidos, like "pythonistas" and "djangonauts".
2016-07-25 21:27:56	babadoo	when is the next asteroidos meetup? :-)
2016-07-25 21:28:45	@kido	hi babadoo and jimj :)
2016-07-25 21:28:48	SylvieLorxu	There are meetups?
2016-07-25 21:29:05	@kido	well I gave a couple of talks in toulouse
2016-07-25 21:29:51	@kido	there is a local embedded linux meetup where I gave talks about the libhybris and asteroid's core architecture, we also have a Qt meetup where I talked about the usage of Qt
2016-07-25 21:30:36	@kido	I think that Nokius_ talked about asteroid at berlin's sailfishos meetup too, but I'm not sure
2016-07-25 21:31:50	@kido	we had a small meetup with TheAppleMan in london too
2016-07-25 21:32:55	@kido	I also shared some time with the sailfishos guys in brussels at FOSDEM which was a really nice weekend
2016-07-25 21:33:15	SylvieLorxu	Well, if there's a meetup anywhere, I want to know!
2016-07-25 21:33:25	@kido	the next event will be in berlin in september
2016-07-25 21:34:15	@kido	I'll give a talk about asteroid at QtCon and then we will try to organize a more asteroid-centered thing with Nokius_ and bebecede
2016-07-25 21:34:23	SylvieLorxu	Oh God that's far away
2016-07-25 21:34:35	@kido	let's see if other are able to come, there might be people from the KDE community too
2016-07-25 21:36:00	@kido	yep, FOSDEM might be the best event for you to come, but I'm just not sure if I will be there again this year
2016-07-25 21:36:30	@kido	is there any FOSS event in amsterdam?
2016-07-25 21:37:21	@kido	I might also be in paris for the open source summit in november but that's not sure
2016-07-25 21:37:46	SylvieLorxu	No clue :P
2016-07-25 21:46:03	RR101	SylvieLorxu: http://www.pastefile.com/ZiXf4t  It works if you Have an Android device from version 4.0 onwards.
2016-07-25 21:46:55	RR101	I want to build the Symbolic Face and run on the operating system AsteroidOS
2016-07-25 21:47:19	RR101	I have no idea where to start.
2016-07-25 21:47:20	SylvieLorxu	Don't you have a screenshot instead?
2016-07-25 21:50:33	RR101	yeah =)
2016-07-25 21:51:55	RR101	SylvieLorxu: http://www.pastefile.com/siWoJ3
2016-07-25 21:54:04	SylvieLorxu	Oh, so you want to create a watchface?
2016-07-25 21:56:15	SylvieLorxu	Check out https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid/wiki/Watchfaces-creation for some beginner info. That watchface seems quite difficult to make thoug
2016-07-25 21:56:19	SylvieLorxu	*though
2016-07-25 21:57:34	SylvieLorxu	Needs programming knowledge though :(
2016-07-25 21:58:58	RR101	I doubt more difficult than this: http://www.pastefile.com/RYTr
2016-07-25 22:00:31	RR101	SylvieLorxu: Well, in programming it is where I require assistance, I do not know the language used in AsteroidOS.
2016-07-25 22:02:47	RR101	SylvieLorxu: As we can build this Symbolic Face and make it run on asteroidOS? http://www.pastefile.com/sIX0jU
2016-07-25 22:02:51	SylvieLorxu	https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid-launcher/tree/master/watchfaces contains the current watchfaces. The .jpg is an example image and the .qml is the code that powers it
2016-07-25 22:03:10	SylvieLorxu	It's probably possible, but really hard and beyond my knowledge of QML honestly
2016-07-25 22:03:58	babadoo	cant be more difficult than this: http://ow.ly/D3Ym302ARtv :-)
2016-07-25 22:04:29	RR101	We do run on android, I can share the source code of java android, to imitate.
2016-07-25 22:04:48	SylvieLorxu	Java code won't help
2016-07-25 22:04:55	SylvieLorxu	AsteroidOS only supports QML watchfaces
2016-07-25 22:05:39	@kido	babadoo: ahah, would anyone want to run this ? :)
2016-07-25 22:06:06	RR101	Knowing the syntax of the code, we can devise a new QML code that achieves the same function?
2016-07-25 22:06:14	RR101	babadoo: hahaha complex
2016-07-25 22:07:19	SylvieLorxu	Probably not, QML is way different, just look at the QML?
2016-07-25 22:07:52	@kido	RR101: couldn't you have made your goal clearer earlier ? instead of sending private messages full of vague sentences giving no clue of what you wanted to do and an apk asking for approval of an EULA full of copyright messages (+ it didn't show anything on my phone)
2016-07-25 22:07:52	babadoo	kido: yes, but with other infos - like "Lines of code hacked today", "TDD Code Coverage %", "Time to holiday" and "Days left until Mr Robot Season 2"
2016-07-25 22:08:35	@kido	anyway, new watchfaces are of course welcome and as SylvieLorxu said you'll need to use QML which is a declarative language quite different from java
2016-07-25 22:09:00	RR101	And if Android has its Symbolic Face, because AsteroidOS not?   http://www.pastefile.com/mroaiE
2016-07-25 22:09:08	@kido	the best thing you can do is to download qt creator and play with qtquick to get the feel of this
2016-07-25 22:09:11	babadoo	cant there be qt c++ functions?
2016-07-25 22:09:56	babadoo	or python?
2016-07-25 22:10:48	@kido	well it is technically possible, but definitely not welcome in asteroid-launcher (unless really justified and well done) and it would still make the rendering of this watchface awfully hard
2016-07-25 22:12:08	RR101	kido: The app did not show anything ?, maybe I did not put the ".ISU" file in the root directory of internal storage.
2016-07-25 22:12:28	@kido	I didn't
2016-07-25 22:12:39	@kido	anyway, screenshots are better
2016-07-25 22:12:54	SylvieLorxu	You can use JavaScript in QML if you need code but the less JavaScript the better
2016-07-25 22:12:59	babadoo	would a fixed set of "system-functions" be a way to go? so the watchface designer can use some kind of system api calls in QML to retrieve data from asteroidos?
2016-07-25 22:12:59	SylvieLorxu	Because JavaScript is slower and so
2016-07-25 22:13:28	SylvieLorxu	babadoo: Qt exposes the time and date already, I suppose it could expose more if necessary
2016-07-25 22:13:50	RR101	kido: It is being led by an initial appearance, it is easier than you think, even easier than it is to determine the time on analog clock.
2016-07-25 22:17:12	RR101	Some of you handles the pascal language? It is the language we use to build the compiler of SymbolicFaces for android.
2016-07-25 22:18:16	RR101	If you sent the code, you could create a version that compile to AsteroidOS.
2016-07-25 22:20:47	RR101	It is almost impossible, but technically possible, I'm open to suggestions, to build a new compiler for SymbolicFaces for AsteroidOS. Someone likes things difficult?... =)
2016-07-25 22:23:21	RR101	I Considered insufficient documentation available to create clock faces. As I can build a new watch, whether traditional base of this little informat
2016-07-25 22:24:40	RR101	http://www.pastefile.com/6yqXCr
2016-07-25 22:42:12	babadoo	RR101: what is this watchface showing?
2016-07-25 22:44:35	RR101	babadoo: The hours, minutes and seconds. I will send you a link to the Universal Guide.
2016-07-25 22:46:28	RR101	babadoo: http://www.andratechnology.com/#!blank/c1h1g      Password:  innovation
2016-07-25 22:52:22	RR101	I am giving access anticipated and open , as the philosophy of free software. ;)
2016-07-25 22:53:24	SylvieLorxu	Looks a lot like a binary clock
2016-07-25 22:56:47	RR101	mmm not http://www.chrismarks.com/widgets/binaryclock/1.png
2016-07-25 22:58:28	RR101	Warning can become addictive after you understand.
2016-07-25 22:58:31	RR101	=)
2016-07-25 22:58:38	babadoo	so 8:36:36 on your image in the middle
2016-07-25 22:58:57	babadoo	yeah its fun to read, one you understand the system
2016-07-25 22:59:05	babadoo	*once
2016-07-25 22:59:43	babadoo	why is the compiler in pascal :-)
2016-07-25 23:01:32	babadoo	after i started with assembler and basic on an apple IIe, i hacked around with pascal :-)
2016-07-25 23:02:55	RR101	babadoo: It was programmer decision. He never told me. http://prntscr.com/bxg0vf
2016-07-25 23:05:06	RR101	babadoo: You used the universal guide to determine the time? Or was your intuition?
2016-07-25 23:05:26	RR101	hacking with pascal! Ho =)
2016-07-25 23:06:51	babadoo	was more like hacking on my keyboard ;-)
2016-07-25 23:07:05	babadoo	i used the guide
2016-07-25 23:07:14	RR101	Whenever you determine the time, you are decoding the clock.
2016-07-25 23:13:31	RR101	babadoo: A test time is it? http://prntscr.com/bxg5zm
2016-07-25 23:22:14	RR101	babadoo: and?
2016-07-25 23:23:20	SylvieLorxu	I still find it hilarious AsteroidOS has the only sane watchface system
2016-07-25 23:23:26	SylvieLorxu	A markup language like QML just makes sense
2016-07-25 23:23:35	SylvieLorxu	On Pebble, they use C. Like, for real, C...
2016-07-25 23:28:34	RR101	SylvieLorxu: That's right, you do not have a lot of freedom using a single language for everything, even the SymbolicFaces.
2016-07-25 23:31:26	RR101	I feel like Apple's closed system Swift
2016-07-25 23:39:05	babadoo	RR101: 9:35:46 ?