2016-07-27 17:46:50	RR101	Hello community!, where I can get information to learn to program in QML, focused on rookies.
2016-07-27 17:48:12	SylvieLorxu	Have you looked at https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid/wiki/Watchfaces-creation and the existing watchfaces yet?
2016-07-27 17:57:19	RR101	SylvieLorxu: I do not program, I learn, if I saw the page, but I want to set the clock does not follow the same principles as the analog or digital clock.
2016-07-27 17:58:12	RR101	SylvieLorxu: Not just place to background. Or a font color.
2016-07-27 17:58:44	SylvieLorxu	RR101: How do you expect to be able to make a more complex clock if you don't understand how basic clocks work?
2016-07-27 17:59:18	RR101	I require an advanced level programming. To achieve run the archetype of Universal symbolic clock.
2016-07-27 18:00:57	SylvieLorxu	You can't learn advanced QML without learning basic QML, just like you can't learn how to build a house if you never learned how to put cement on a brick
2016-07-27 18:02:20	RR101	SylvieLorxu: he running on Android, was programmed in java and pascal, to program in QML, I require help because my programmer left the team.
2016-07-27 18:03:41	RR101	SylvieLorxu: I'm stuck right now, I need technical direction was the main programmer, left the team, and I can not contact you 3 weeks ago. I was left with all the source code. =S
2016-07-27 18:06:22	RR101	I have a vision of this operating system, which will drive new devices and provide a platform for the symbolic clock, but now I'm stuck, without programmer in java and pascal, how can I start pushing in QML.
2016-07-27 18:08:18	RR101	mutual cooperation is required.
2016-07-27 18:37:21	RR101	I'm the only one in this room who is not a programmer... I will begin by asking, what is this: Image {
2016-07-27 18:37:21	RR101	       source: "background.jpg"
2016-07-27 18:37:21	RR101	       width: 160
2016-07-27 18:37:21	RR101	       height: 160
2016-07-27 18:37:21	RR101	   }
2016-07-27 18:38:44	SylvieLorxu	http://lmgtfy.com/?q=qml+image
2016-07-27 18:38:46	SylvieLorxu	First result
2016-07-27 18:43:21	RR101	This was the result of the search: http://prntscr.com/by8u7a
2016-07-27 18:44:42	SylvieLorxu	I'm sorry, but I'm not spending any more time talking to someone who doesn't seriously read what I'm saying and clearly didn't even click the link either
2016-07-27 18:44:52	SylvieLorxu	Because it's a waste of my and your time
2016-07-27 18:51:26	RR101	http://doc.qt.io/qt-4.8/qml-qt.html#formatTime-method
2016-07-27 18:52:58	RR101	There is no algorithm for the code.
2016-07-27 18:53:33	RR101	My watch requires 40 elements with a separate counter for each item.
2016-07-27 18:54:46	@kido	RR101: let me put it this way, you will be welcome here when you will be able to be constructive. until then please stop bothering us, we will definitely live without your watchface
2016-07-27 18:55:39	RR101	The analog clock uses 3 elements, the needles of hours, minutes and seconds. The digital clock, using a variable, 12-24 hours, 0-59m, 0-59s. My watch uses groups of 12, 5, 9, 5, 9.
2016-07-27 18:57:49	@kido	I clearly understand why your dev left you and let me kindly ask you to find another project to develop your "symbolic clock" on, if you want to continue playing with asteroid please do it but we don't have time to waste with someone who is unwilling to learn
2016-07-27 18:58:14	RR101	12 hours, 5 tens menute, 9 units minute, 5 tens second, 9 units second. We will require construct an algorithm in the code, what they call a new source.
2016-07-27 19:01:10	RR101	kido: I am determined to run the symbolicface the symbolic clock in the AsteroidOS, my intention is to share information that can generate ideas to achieve that goal. Sorry but this misinterpreting the matter. I have three days investigating, you can not learn everything you need in three days.
2016-07-27 19:02:44	SylvieLorxu	There are no ideas necessary, it's just a matter of QML code. But we don't have the time to hold your hand through each step, you need to do your own research and take the info you've been given so far seriously
2016-07-27 19:03:13	SylvieLorxu	We're not high school computer programming teachers
2016-07-27 19:03:33	SylvieLorxu	"Google is your friend", that kind of stuff
2016-07-27 19:03:40	RR101	kido: Additionally, I am making the contribution in building a new UI for the operating system. What is your trouble friend? =S
2016-07-27 19:04:50	SylvieLorxu	Our trouble is that you ask a million questions of which 99.9% can be found by using Google for 5 seconds and it feels like you're just too lazy to read and research yourself
2016-07-27 19:05:57	RR101	SylvieLorxu: Tankyou, I have it in mind. not sharing more about the idea, not to bother.
2016-07-27 19:06:29	@kido	RR101: you basically want us to write every single line of your freaking clock, you definitely don't have any idea of how an open source community work... if you want to make your watch run on asteroid you are free to do it but stop asking stupid questions waiting for us to do everything, we have better ways to use our time. read a QML tutorial, ask questions on specialized forums and come back to this
2016-07-27 19:06:29	@kido	channel once you will know what you are talking about
2016-07-27 19:07:43	Asara	kido: can i be a bouncer?
2016-07-27 19:07:46	@kido	I don't like being rude with people but it seems that there is no other way to make you understand
2016-07-27 19:07:47	Asara	slap people around real quick
2016-07-27 19:08:14	SylvieLorxu	Asara: Will you replace ZNC for me then? ;)
2016-07-27 19:08:29	Asara	hahahaha
2016-07-27 19:08:31	Asara	anti-bouncer i guess
2016-07-27 19:08:37	Asara	i kill znc sessions for you
2016-07-27 19:14:12	RR101	kido: quote "freaking clock", you can insult me personally, but if you do not mind insulting an idea from someone else, doubt your ability to lead a community of free software. Thanks for clearing that my idea is superior to yours.
2016-07-27 19:16:26	RR101	What would you do if you say the same thing in one of your speeches, I'm not clarify much programmer does, I'm the leader, and program people do not code, you're a programmer, but not a leader. Success with your project.
2016-07-27 19:17:59	RR101	kido: Thank you for insulting my idea.
2016-07-27 19:20:22	@kido	yes you are right, I am a total asshole unable to push a project forward but please let me be one alone. I'm sure you will be able to laugh at me once you will become a billionaire by having revolutionized the vision of time
2016-07-27 19:32:20	RR101	Okay. As you say.
2016-07-27 19:32:52	@kido	ah finally
2016-07-27 19:33:06	@kido	hi babadoo 
2016-07-27 19:33:15	babadoo	hola asteroidos!
2016-07-27 19:34:55	SylvieLorxu	Hey babadoo :)
2016-07-27 19:36:03	Asara	now i have to recommend everyone watch the movie the babadook
2016-07-27 19:49:55	babadoo	the babadoo doo doo. uaaaa! :-)
2016-07-27 20:36:12	@kido	hey Lrs121 
2016-07-27 20:36:32	@kido	babadoo: ^~ there is your man
2016-07-27 20:36:35	Lrs121	hello kido
2016-07-27 20:37:00	@kido	what's up? :)
2016-07-27 20:37:27	Lrs121	working on geting the lcb51 update
2016-07-27 20:37:38	@kido	cool, how is that going?
2016-07-27 20:38:21	Lrs121	its working so far. just rolled back to the one we found
2016-07-27 20:39:00	@kido	good, let me know if you meet any issue with assembling your system directory
2016-07-27 20:40:18	@kido	babadoo ordered a zenwatch 2 WI501Q
2016-07-27 20:40:23	@kido	do you know what your exact model is?
2016-07-27 20:43:53	Lrs121	thats it. zenwatch 2 WI01Q codename sparrow
2016-07-27 20:44:24	Lrs121	i forgot the 5 but yes
2016-07-27 20:45:24	babadoo	hey Lrs121
2016-07-27 20:45:40	babadoo	nice to hear you are working on the WI501Q
2016-07-27 20:45:40	Lrs121	hello babadoo
2016-07-27 20:46:16	babadoo	this nice one just arrived, and i am eager to test your achievements
2016-07-27 20:47:23	Lrs121	i feel like we're close to having it functional.
2016-07-27 20:48:31	@kido	Lrs121: I'm pretty confident that with the right android version it should work
2016-07-27 20:48:58	@kido	actually it had no reason to work if the hybris headers (extracted from your 5.1.1 build tree) don't match the installed libraries
2016-07-27 20:50:11	Lrs121	yah when i pulled the system i had a feeling it was gonna come back to bite me
2016-07-27 20:57:29	Lrs121	babadoo: do you have your watch?
2016-07-27 20:57:45	babadoo	Lrs121: yes
2016-07-27 20:58:10	Lrs121	which version of android is on it?
2016-07-27 20:59:38	babadoo	android wear 1.5.0.2923607
2016-07-27 20:59:40	@kido	good question, didn't think of asking it before
2016-07-27 20:59:57	babadoo	android 6.0.1
2016-07-27 21:00:06	@kido	mhh too bad
2016-07-27 21:00:45	babadoo	why?
2016-07-27 21:00:55	@kido	babadoo: don't worry, we just need to pull some files from a 5.1.1 watch, if yours was under 5.1.1 it would have avoided Lrs121 to downgrade his watch
2016-07-27 21:01:19	@kido	once we have those files asteroid should work
2016-07-27 21:02:44	Lrs121	kido: ive downgraded to lca49b which is 5.1.1 do i need to have lcb51
2016-07-27 21:04:37	@kido	has long as you have 5.1.1 it should be ok
2016-07-27 21:05:04	Lrs121	ok good, the system image i found was modified so the ota would have failed
2016-07-27 21:06:04	@kido	but didn't you say you had found a 5.1.0 image ?
2016-07-27 21:06:53	Lrs121	i thought it was, it says its 5.1.1 in the settings
2016-07-27 21:07:12	@kido	good
2016-07-27 21:11:01	Lrs121	im running into issues in copying system over adb. is it possible to mount the partition image in a loop on linux and grab the files that way?
2016-07-27 21:12:10	Lrs121	or maybe through twrp?
2016-07-27 21:43:13	@kido	yes you can probably do it from twrp
2016-07-27 22:02:39	Lrs121	and a clean build is on the way
2016-07-27 22:03:02	@kido	well, you shouldn't have to rebuild it
2016-07-27 22:03:09	@kido	if you did it properly on the first time
2016-07-27 22:03:26	@kido	anyway it's not very long
2016-07-27 22:04:00	Lrs121	probably not, but i was very behind on some updates to some of the src  repos
2016-07-27 22:04:00	@kido	unless you are talking about asteroid, which is long :)
2016-07-27 22:04:12	@kido	ok, I thought you were talking about android
2016-07-27 22:04:49	Lrs121	nope i just grabbed the hybris stuff from the previous try
2016-07-27 22:05:06	@kido	:)
2016-07-27 22:45:14	babadoo	Lrs121: have to leave for today. i wish you good luck.
2016-07-27 22:45:29	babadoo	will be here the next days
2016-07-27 22:45:46	babadoo	hasta la vista asteroidos!
2016-07-27 22:45:56	Lrs121	I should have an update tomorrow sometime
2016-07-27 22:46:04	@kido	:)
2016-07-27 22:46:11	@kido	I'm also done for today
2016-07-27 22:46:15	@kido	good luck Lrs121