2016-08-16 16:33:06	Rob__	I'd like to change the firmware/o/s on my smartwatch. Is this possible?
2016-08-16 16:33:59	Rob__	It's a RWATCH R11 IR IP67 MTK2501 Bluetooth 4.0 smartwatch, currently using M80A_OPT.NEW.UI.R11.FN2.V004.
2016-08-16 16:34:20	Rob__	Hello?
2016-08-16 16:39:12	@kido	hi Rob__ 
2016-08-16 16:40:26	@kido	"Other low-end smartwatches using cheap Mediatek SoCs aren???t able to run a Linux kernel and can???t be supported by AsteroidOSthe last paragraph of "Porting Status" https://asteroidos.org/wiki/porting-status/
2016-08-16 16:41:16	@kido	meh, sorry for formating but no you can't install asteroid on your watch
2016-08-16 18:49:21	SylvieLorxu	Listening to some YouTubers doing a Let's Play, they're calling the Apple Watch horrible because you can't watch videos on it. Not sure if still true, the video I'm watching is rather old, but if anyone wanted an app idea ;)
2016-08-16 18:56:53	dmr	SylvieLorxu: I went to a local talk recently that examined many failures of the Apple Watch so far, but also indicated that their current beta addresses many of them.
2016-08-16 18:57:52	dmr	SylvieLorxu: most of the failures were related to performance in launching an app - apparently the Apple Watch developers were overly cautious with allocation of resources... so much so that it was a huge performance impact
2016-08-16 18:58:28	dmr	(and the performance is one of the main things addressed in the new beta)
2016-08-16 18:59:06	@kido	ahah I don't see why video playing would be so important but well... as long as it's possible :)
2016-08-16 19:00:08	SylvieLorxu	I think it'd be cool if AsteroidOS had a gallery app that would allow you to browse through your Android/whatever gallery :P
2016-08-16 19:00:29	SylvieLorxu	dmr: I don't know much about Apple Watch honestly, the only smartwatch OS I used for longer than 15 seconds is AsteroidOS :P
2016-08-16 19:01:08	@kido	well that would require one more bluetooth profile
2016-08-16 19:03:48	@kido	I recently realized how much android's ble api pisses me off and this blocks me from adding new profiles so I should probably try to find an abstraction library that hides some of the ugly parts of android's api
2016-08-16 19:04:12	@kido	hopefuly it could make asteroidossync usable, there are just too many issues yet
2016-08-16 19:04:35	dmr	SylvieLorxu: that's why I went to the talk - to gain perspective on some proprietary software that I never imagine using myself, haha.
2016-08-16 19:04:46	SylvieLorxu	Is there any part of Android that is NOT ugly? :P
2016-08-16 19:04:55	SylvieLorxu	dmr: I see, sounds fair enough
2016-08-16 19:05:10	SylvieLorxu	Good to know what's popular in the proprietary world so we can make better Free Software things :D
2016-08-16 19:06:12	@kido	SylvieLorxu: well, I worked with android's SDK several time and usually the API are well thought but with BLE that's just terrific, for example you can't write two characteristics in a row, you have to setup a event queue by yourself
2016-08-16 19:07:02	@kido	there are also some other crazy stuff, for example if I want to use asteroidossync I first have to connect 2/3 times with a BLE scanner and once ble scanner works I can then use asteroidossync
2016-08-16 19:07:07	SylvieLorxu	That sounds dumb
2016-08-16 19:07:21	SylvieLorxu	Also "terrific" means "extremely good", you probably meant to say "terrible" :P
2016-08-16 19:07:29	@kido	:)
2016-08-16 19:07:38	@kido	sure, excuse me
2016-08-16 19:20:04	dmr	SylvieLorxu, kido: "terrific" can mean "terrifying": https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/terrific  http://www.thefreedictionary.com/terrific
2016-08-16 19:20:32	dmr	SylvieLorxu, kido: but that's not as common as a usage, and it's ambiguous, so it's probably better to go with "horrific" or "terrible" :)
2016-08-16 19:20:44	SylvieLorxu	Whaaat
2016-08-16 19:21:12	SylvieLorxu	English language what's wrong with you
2016-08-16 19:21:18	dmr	lol
2016-08-16 19:21:32	@kido	indeed, but glad to be right :D
2016-08-16 19:23:30	@kido	https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Polidea/RxAndroidBle/master/site/viking-large.jpeg those guys are really excited about bluetooth
2016-08-16 19:24:10	SylvieLorxu	Haha
2016-08-16 19:24:58	SylvieLorxu	Well I'm rather excited about coupling my smartwatch with my phone over Bluetooth too :P
2016-08-16 19:25:48	@kido	I guess I will re-write everything with this https://github.com/iDevicesInc/SweetBlue
2016-08-16 19:27:05	SylvieLorxu	I find it funny it's an Android library by "iDevicesInc"
2016-08-16 19:28:59	@kido	reminds me of this https://twitter.com/AsteroidOS/status/697850612084580352
2016-08-16 19:29:44	SylvieLorxu	"I like fruits", hahaha
2016-08-16 19:30:46	SylvieLorxu	Yeah, I get the comparison :P
2016-08-16 20:09:39	SylvieLorxu	Anyway, good luck on the rewrite. I'd help but getting the Android SDK is such a hell :(
2016-08-16 20:37:21	@kido	hum it's just long to download but not that hard
2016-08-16 20:54:53	SylvieLorxu	It is if you're like me and refuse to accept Google's agreement :P
2016-08-16 20:55:02	SylvieLorxu	The Replicant SDK is... horrible to set up
2016-08-16 21:19:29	@kido	ah, I wasn't aware of this SDK
2016-08-16 21:28:00	SylvieLorxu	Honestly, don't bother with it unless you want to delay AsteroidOS as a whole for a year :P
2016-08-16 21:28:16	SylvieLorxu	I spent full days setting it up and eventually gave up