2016-09-04 01:40:55	TheAppleMan	kido: do you have the link to the post with the adb udev rules file? can't find it anywhere...
2016-09-04 01:46:13	TheAppleMan	ahha, it is on the website!
2016-09-04 01:47:21	TheAppleMan	(http://ktnr74.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/universal-udev-rule-for-all-android.html btw)
2016-09-04 07:54:49	@kido	yep it's on the documentation :)
2016-09-04 10:11:16	locusf	gotta love that notification update descriptor for asteroid-btsyncd :)
2016-09-04 11:18:37	locusf	kido: it seems that the whole notification stuff can be done in python
2016-09-04 11:19:00	locusf	for sailfish at least
2016-09-04 11:21:54	locusf	phone calls can be made with a separate dialer for asteroid os which just relays data from phone (telepathy, ofono) to watch and back
2016-09-04 11:22:12	locusf	pickling python objects is key here
2016-09-04 11:22:41	locusf	those pickled objects can be compressed and sent/read
2016-09-04 11:23:13	locusf	I'll try to get a poc done at some point
2016-09-04 11:23:18	locusf	but it won't take much effort
2016-09-04 13:05:23	@kido	locusf: really nice !
2016-09-04 13:13:13	locusf	except I don't know how to do a client :p
2016-09-04 13:18:29	@kido	you mean the asteroid app ?
2016-09-04 13:18:37	@kido	I can help you along the way
2016-09-04 13:19:00	@kido	just wait for me to have slightly more free time, I'm still at QtCon
2016-09-04 13:19:12	locusf	sure
2016-09-04 13:19:16	@kido	it seems that my talk was a success, got many questions
2016-09-04 13:23:13	locusf	good stuff :)
2016-09-04 16:22:27	locusf	kido: is there a way to see if gatt is enabled for sw3?
2016-09-04 16:23:07	@kido	yes
2016-09-04 16:23:30	@kido	use bluetoothctl and check what's going on, also check hciconfig hci0
2016-09-04 16:23:40	@kido	don't forget you have to enable leadv
2016-09-04 16:24:11	locusf	leadv?
2016-09-04 16:29:45	locusf	found it
2016-09-04 16:29:56	locusf	hcitool just says that it has no devices
2016-09-04 17:30:06	@kido	locusf: can you make sure that the patchram service is running fine ?
2016-09-04 17:31:28	@kido	it should run the patchram script trying to upload the broadcom's firmware to your bt chip
2016-09-04 17:31:42	@kido	maybe the dev tty file is wrong in patchram.sh
2016-09-04 17:43:40	locusf	kido: will see
2016-09-04 17:47:57	locusf	there is no rfkill command nor patchram.sh installed
2016-09-04 17:58:59	@kido	ok... might explain a couple of things then :)
2016-09-04 18:11:00	locusf	yeah
2016-09-04 18:14:16	locusf	I only have ttyGS0-5
2016-09-04 18:31:52	locusf	nothing on the patchram functionality
2016-09-04 18:31:59	locusf	doesn't find the correct tty
2016-09-04 18:37:42	@kido	:/
2016-09-04 18:38:07	@kido	let me some time I'm back at the hotel and might find some time for this tonight :)
2016-09-04 18:42:00	locusf	ok thanks
2016-09-04 19:36:19	profnixer	Hello everybody. Am I right in the assumption that there are no mailing lists?
2016-09-04 19:40:42	ledixus	profnixer: as far as i know, there arent no mailing lists atm
2016-09-04 20:09:30	@kido	profnixer: indeed, everything happens here
2016-09-04 20:10:12	profnixer	I see.
2016-09-04 20:16:21	@kido	are you interested in contributing ?
2016-09-04 20:18:30	profnixer	Maybe. Right now I am interested in learning more about the project and what has been done so far. Without a documentation of this process (like mailing lists for example) that's quite challenging ;)
2016-09-04 20:22:29	@kido	well there is the project's documentation and github projects to give you an idea
2016-09-04 20:22:42	@kido	and you can also ask questions here at any time
2016-09-04 20:27:42	ahoneybun	heyo
2016-09-04 20:29:12	ahoneybun	are all the devs at QtCon?
2016-09-04 20:29:59	suebt	kido: great talk :) (https://streaming.media.ccc.de/qtcon16/relive/366/)
2016-09-04 20:31:04	@kido	ahoneybun: what do you mean by all the devs?
2016-09-04 20:31:13	ahoneybun	just wondering
2016-09-04 20:31:30	ahoneybun	looking at the Design part of helping
2016-09-04 20:32:01	ahoneybun	the UI seems to be aimed at square watchs
2016-09-04 20:32:05	ahoneybun	*watches
2016-09-04 20:32:06	@kido	ahoneybun: yep that would be great :)
2016-09-04 20:32:19	ahoneybun	why tease the moto 360?
2016-09-04 20:32:22	ahoneybun	;P
2016-09-04 20:33:11	@kido	we don't support the moto 360, it needs a special adapter :)
2016-09-04 20:33:19	ahoneybun	https://asteroidos.org/
2016-09-04 20:33:20	@kido	but we support the g watch urbane which also has a round screen
2016-09-04 20:33:22	ahoneybun	the site has it XD
2016-09-04 20:34:36	@kido	mhh are you sure this is one? I just tried to find a generic enough smartwatch image
2016-09-04 20:34:42	ahoneybun	kido, I've worked on a few documentation projects as well so if you want to tag me on github or something
2016-09-04 20:34:54	ahoneybun	I am as I have the watch XD
2016-09-04 20:35:02	@kido	what do you mean by tagging you?
2016-09-04 20:35:16	ahoneybun	well you can assign people to issues and such
2016-09-04 20:35:26	@kido	alright
2016-09-04 20:35:34	ahoneybun	I like to help on small issues so devs don't have to worry about them
2016-09-04 20:35:36	ahoneybun	;)
2016-09-04 20:35:45	@kido	:)
2016-09-04 20:36:08	 *	ahoneybun thinks of taking back his LG Watch from his roommate
2016-09-04 20:36:47	SylvieLorxu	profnixer: "Without a documentation of this process that's quite challenging ;)" <- "git log" ;)
2016-09-04 20:36:50	ahoneybun	I don't think that 4 application multitasking works on small screens
2016-09-04 20:37:07	ahoneybun	https://asteroidos.org/#portfolio-image/2/
2016-09-04 20:37:54	SylvieLorxu	ahoneybun: Works on my LG G Watch
2016-09-04 20:38:10	ahoneybun	SylvieLorxu, as it is a square watch
2016-09-04 20:38:15	ahoneybun	it does not work on a round one
2016-09-04 20:38:18	ahoneybun	I would think
2016-09-04 20:38:35	SylvieLorxu	Hey you said small screen not round screen just now :P
2016-09-04 20:38:36	ahoneybun	only way for it to look decent would to make the previews smaller
2016-09-04 20:38:43	ahoneybun	which is bad for larger finger users
2016-09-04 20:40:58	ahoneybun	I did
2016-09-04 20:42:11	TheAppleMan	the ui for asteroid isnt adapted for round screens; we need a asteroid 2.0 :P
2016-09-04 20:43:35	ahoneybun	kido, I'm guessing that: https://asteroidos.org/#portfolio-image/1/ is for app selection>
2016-09-04 20:43:36	ahoneybun	?
2016-09-04 20:46:48	locusf	hmm another idea on streaming clock mic to phone, use wlan hotspot
2016-09-04 20:54:18	locusf	kido: is it known that sw3 has no haptic feedback?
2016-09-04 21:00:36	ahoneybun	who made the UI?
2016-09-04 21:19:54	@kido	locusf: not all the smartwatches have wifi capabilities ;)
2016-09-04 21:20:25	@kido	no I haven't noticed that the sw3's vibrations were not working, I am still mostly working my g watch but I should probably spend more time on it yep
2016-09-04 21:20:42	@kido	ahoneybun: I am most likely the one to blame for all those irrelevant design choices
2016-09-04 21:21:08	ahoneybun	kido, I'm not blaming anyone
2016-09-04 21:21:14	@kido	I am :)
2016-09-04 21:21:14	ahoneybun	that helps nothing
2016-09-04 21:21:30	ahoneybun	just want to understand what the project is trying to do
2016-09-04 21:21:47	ahoneybun	do we want a pebble or android wear interaction
2016-09-04 21:22:02	ahoneybun	pebble - oh I have a text from mom, I'll reply later
2016-09-04 21:22:16	ahoneybun	android wear - oh I have a text from mom, I'll reply now
2016-09-04 21:26:51	@kido	ahoneybun: I have never thought about that
2016-09-04 21:27:02	@kido	you should get in touch with bebecede to talk about this kind of questions
2016-09-04 21:27:09	@kido	she isn't often there though
2016-09-04 21:28:26	ahoneybun	well I think the project is in it's baby mode atm and the pebble idea would be good
2016-09-04 21:28:58	ahoneybun	kido, so can we see text messages on the watch yet?
2016-09-04 21:30:05	@kido	ahoneybun: there is a proof of concept for that but this definitely needs some more work
2016-09-04 21:30:22	ahoneybun	I'm wondering what it can do
2016-09-04 21:33:33	ahoneybun	kido, from a UI end or backend?
2016-09-04 21:34:47	@kido	backend
2016-09-04 21:34:49	ahoneybun	kido, a simple start: http://imgur.com/a/MNtfS
2016-09-04 21:35:58	@kido	just for you to know, bebecede has started some preliminary work regarding the app launcher that you can see here http://placeholder.fr/~kido/asteroidOS-buttons-types.pdf
2016-09-04 21:37:26	ahoneybun	wow
2016-09-04 21:38:10	ahoneybun	that's some UI goodness
2016-09-04 21:43:24	ahoneybun	I like the shape on the Timer on Vaiant 1 kido
2016-09-04 21:43:41	ahoneybun	looks cool but can still fit with a round watch
2016-09-04 21:44:21	@kido	so do I but it seems that more people like the variant 2
2016-09-04 21:45:33	ahoneybun	I don't like it as it feels too much like Android Wear
2016-09-04 21:46:26	ahoneybun	you should want to make something that is only in asteroid
2016-09-04 21:47:25	ahoneybun	not sure how to make that shape in GIMP though
2016-09-04 21:49:30	 *	ahoneybun heads out for a bit
2016-09-04 21:49:53	ahoneybun	kido, can we get a telegram group or something btw?
2016-09-04 21:51:20	@kido	this question comes up pretty often and no I'm not interested in telegram, my main point about it is that most of the free software guys are on familiar and there's no good reason to make them use something special fot asteroid
2016-09-04 21:52:41	TheAppleMan	we should get a mailing list at some point though
2016-09-04 21:55:12	@kido	it would mean more sysadmin work and I don't think there is enough traction yet behind asteroid to make the mailing list worthwhile, however this is definitely to be considered
2016-09-04 21:58:15	TheAppleMan	google groups *ducks*
2016-09-04 22:01:08	@kido	:)
2016-09-04 22:02:08	 *	suebt votes for Telegram :P
2016-09-04 22:02:30	suebt	Or a G+ group
2016-09-04 22:02:41	suebt	s/group/community/
2016-09-04 22:04:55	TheAppleMan	google provide factory images for nemo so its potentially possible to port it without the watch...
2016-09-04 22:09:24	@kido	suebt: a g+ community is something I could imagine yep
2016-09-04 22:09:29	ahoneybun	And i installed a irc client on my phone for this
2016-09-04 22:09:39	@kido	TheAppleMan: porting without trying? I don't think this is a good idea :D
2016-09-04 22:10:34	@kido	ahoneybun: we don't *need* to do something "only in asteroid", we try to if this is needed but I don't see why we should avoid the circular shape just to look different :)
2016-09-04 22:12:46	ahoneybun	Thats true
2016-09-04 22:13:41	@kido	locusf: https://github.com/AsteroidOS/meta-tetra-hybris/commit/d3cff63f0bc94704c849253e43681d8510d1037e this at the very least is needed
2016-09-04 22:14:28	@kido	and the tty is probably wrong here https://github.com/AsteroidOS/meta-tetra-hybris/blob/master/recipes-android/brcm-patchram-plus/brcm-patchram-plus/patchram.sh#L14 so we need to figure out which one is responsible for bringing up the hci device and also what parameters are needed for that
2016-09-04 22:17:41	ahoneybun	All the designs work anyway
2016-09-04 22:19:50	@kido	yes they are pretty cool
2016-09-04 22:27:03	ahoneybun	 Cool!
2016-09-04 22:42:20	SylvieLorxu	Eww G+
2016-09-04 22:42:33	SylvieLorxu	At least Telegram can be used without running non-Free software :P
2016-09-04 22:42:46	SylvieLorxu	Not that I'm a huge fan of Telegram
2016-09-04 22:42:52	SylvieLorxu	Honestly, IRC above all
2016-09-04 23:23:13	ahoneybun	Mm hardcore freesoftware users