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I have to take a talk with the sailfish guys. 13:31:32 wert | the demos of asteroidos that I saw are great. 13:34:50 Quit: jreznik_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13:36:26 kido | good that you like it :) 13:36:57 kido | a sfos client is definitely something I would like to happen but I have no timeline for it yet 13:39:37 profnixer joined the channel 13:39:44 wert | can you help me finding some information where I can start? I found it in the wish list for the maemo developer Regatta 13:41:37 wert | I come from another programming world. (embedded Systems in c) but for sure I can learn. 13:42:59 Etua joined the channel 13:46:34 kido | sure, that would be cool 13:47:15 kido | https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid-btsyncd/issues/1 13:47:21 kido | you can start by giving this a look 13:49:21 Quit: Mister_Magister (Remote host closed the connection) 13:49:54 Mister_Magister joined the channel 13:55:12 wert | thanks, I will search in the sailfish documentation for the connection to the BLE. maybe I can find an example in c++ 13:56:13 wert | another question, how stable is the os at the moment? can you use your watch for everyday? 13:58:49 kido | I dno't use it daily but it's starting to be pretty much usable yes 13:58:58 kido | maybe some community members use it daily 14:06:08 Quit: Mister_Magister (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 14:12:58 jreznik_ joined the channel 14:15:53 Mister_Magister joined the channel 14:18:57 Quit: jreznik_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14:34:01 wert | ok, thanks for your advice, I will see what I can do. for sure I would enjoy having a smartwatch with asteroidOS. thanks kido 14:42:43 kido | you're welcome 15:07:41 Nokius | wert: the battery stays for a day but I charge it normaly at my desk 15:08:01 SylvieLorxu joined the channel 15:09:29 Nokius | maybe a day is bit optimistic it works from home to work desk and back charge it over night and at the desk 15:12:27 Quit: SylvieLorxu (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 15:13:58 Quit: Etua (Quit: Leaving) 15:20:43 SylvieLorxu joined the channel 15:27:01 Quit: SylvieLorxu (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 15:39:30 Quit: Mister_Magister (Remote host closed the connection) 15:39:53 Mister_Magister joined the channel 15:52:34 davidek joined the channel 15:54:42 Quit: davidek (Client Quit) 15:58:35 SylvieLorxu joined the channel 16:02:46 Quit: profnixer (Quit: Leaving.) 16:05:09 Quit: SylvieLorxu (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 16:08:49 SylvieLorxu joined the channel 16:12:35 bencord0_ joined the channel 16:35:22 Quit: Mister_Magister (Remote host closed the connection) 16:35:49 Mister_Magister joined the channel 16:36:19 Korak | I am currently trying it out for daily use and I am seeing around 10-11 hour battery life. So certainly on short side but still long enough to be very usable. 16:38:54 bencord0_ | Does anyone have a local checkout of git://git.freesmartphone.org/utilities.git part of meta-smartphone/meta-android/recipes-android brcm-patchram-plus/brcm-patchram-plus_git.bb ? 16:39:11 bencord0_ | and can you mirror it somewhere else 16:40:13 bencord0_ | git.freesmartphone.org appears to have dropped off of the internet 16:42:06 Quit: SylvieLorxu (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16:52:32 bencord0_ | I've filed https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid/issues/9 in the meantime 16:53:56 kido | meh, this is indeed not the first time it happens 16:55:21 kido | I even wonder if we should keep meta-smartphone this way 16:59:29 wert left the channel 17:02:34 SylvieLorxu joined the channel 17:04:45 kido | hi SylvieLorxu I remembered that there is actually a community member at 33c3, I don't really know him but he also asked if someone would be there https://twitter.com/QWxleA/status/803364797651808257 17:05:28 SylvieLorxu | kido: Don't have Twitter so no clue how to find them but thanks 17:05:47 kido | ahah ok 17:12:24 EvilAntCyborg | [06AsteroidOS/brcm-patchram-plus] 12FlorentRevest 03created branch master 17:12:24 EvilAntCyborg | [06AsteroidOS/brcm-patchram-plus] 12FlorentRevest 03created repository  17:12:24 EvilAntCyborg | [06AsteroidOS/asteroid] 12bencord0 commented on issue #9 Build failure due to missing mirror: git.freesmartphone.org: https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid/issues/9#issuecomment-269495946 17:12:24 EvilAntCyborg | [06AsteroidOS/asteroid] 12bencord0 03opened issue #9: Build failure due to missing mirror: git.freesmartphone.org https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid/issues/9 17:12:26 EvilAntCyborg | [06AsteroidOS/meta-asteroid] 12FlorentRevest pushed 1 commit on 13master: https://github.com/AsteroidOS/meta-asteroid/compare/181a259ef4050a4b4005f575bb71212db7dad363...2e9671741a3618e097657c80761c63945558c701 17:12:28 EvilAntCyborg | * [062e96717] 12Florent Revest brcm-patchram-plus: Use an asteroid mirror of git://git.freesmartphone.org/utilities.git which should stay more reliable in time 17:14:24 EvilAntCyborg | [06AsteroidOS/asteroid] 12FlorentRevest commented on issue #9 Build failure due to missing mirror: git.freesmartphone.org: https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid/issues/9#issuecomment-269499046 17:14:24 EvilAntCyborg | [06AsteroidOS/meta-asteroid] 12FlorentRevest pushed 1 commit on 13master: https://github.com/AsteroidOS/meta-asteroid/compare/181a259ef4050a4b4005f575bb71212db7dad363...2e9671741a3618e097657c80761c63945558c701 17:14:24 EvilAntCyborg | * [062e96717] 12Florent Revest brcm-patchram-plus: Use an asteroid mirror of git://git.freesmartphone.org/utilities.git which should stay more reliable in time 17:14:34 bencord0_ | :) 17:25:16 bencord0_ | Oh, you need to update the SRCREV too c8fbd5f45392c4bf3c12cec7e3f59c2b79bd7dfc 17:25:36 kido | ahah right 17:28:24 EvilAntCyborg | [06AsteroidOS/meta-asteroid] 12FlorentRevest pushed 1 commit on 13master: https://github.com/AsteroidOS/meta-asteroid/compare/2e9671741a3618e097657c80761c63945558c701...d62eff58ee59287f50f266ed16745454b21d71e9 17:28:24 EvilAntCyborg | * [06d62eff5] 12Florent Revest brcm-patchram-plus: Bump SRCREV to latest commit 17:29:51 bencord0_ | All good now 17:30:24 EvilAntCyborg | [06AsteroidOS/asteroid] 12bencord0 commented on issue #9 Build failure due to missing mirror: git.freesmartphone.org: https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid/issues/9#issuecomment-269501373 17:30:24 EvilAntCyborg | [06AsteroidOS/asteroid] 12bencord0 04closed issue #9: Build failure due to missing mirror: git.freesmartphone.org https://github.com/AsteroidOS/asteroid/issues/9 19:34:28 Quit: Mister_Magister (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 19:40:18 jreznik_ joined the channel 19:46:30 Mister_Magister joined the channel 20:26:25 Quit: Mister_Magister (Remote host closed the connection) 20:27:26 Mister_Magister joined the channel 20:34:54 Quit: Mister_Magister (Remote host closed the connection) 20:37:21 Mister_Magister joined the channel 20:42:34 Quit: Mister_Magister (Remote host closed the connection) 21:09:00 Mister_Magister joined the channel 21:32:37 kido | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVN5IlXHTy8 nice to share with new users 21:32:38 EvilAntCyborg | Ha Ha! Nice vid kido! UNLOCK BOOTLOADER/RUN ASTEROIDOS ON G WATCH TUTORIAL [PL/ENG] (07:00) 21:42:50 bencord0_ | Cool vid 21:42:53 TheAppleMan | it's good to have windows instructions :P 21:43:37 kido | hehe indeed, it looks slightly harder to do basic things 21:43:41 bencord0_ | Boy, that OS really makes you jump through hoops eh 21:44:44 kido | :) 21:46:38 SylvieLorxu | Windows makes everything hard 21:47:04 SylvieLorxu | I still don't get all the devs at my uni who swear by an OS that doesn't even do dependency management properly 21:48:33 bencord0_ | We're ones to talk. oh bitbake, what have you done :( 21:51:51 kido | hehe bencord0_, you haven't known the beginning of asteroid... :) 21:52:34 kido | before OE, before I even got interested in smartwatches, I was putting together my own python build system https://github.com/FlorentRevest/asteroid-defunct/blob/master/build 21:53:49 kido | build order was hard coded https://github.com/FlorentRevest/asteroid-defunct/blob/master/recipes/0.1.recipe 21:54:42 bencord0_ | I'm aware of asteroid's history. The various android build systems. My previous job, at Cisco of all places, was building build systems. 21:55:30 kido | yeah maybe we already talked about that when I was in london 21:55:52 bencord0_ | Have you read https://medium.com/@sdboyer/so-you-want-to-write-a-package-manager-4ae9c17d9527 ? 21:57:21 bencord0_ | 'OS/system package manager (SPM): this is not why we are here today' <-- is my favourite line 21:59:02 kido | "our lives are meaningless perturbations in a swirling vortex of chaos and entropy 21:59:29 kido | ... interesting reflection :) 22:02:17 bencord0_ | It's a really good, if long, read about good pacakge manager design 22:09:45 bencord0_ | Ohh, unrelated topic. I've found the libhybris test programs. 22:09:47 bencord0_ | http://pastebin.com/3WELVAyY 22:10:00 bencord0_ | I can make my watch vibrate on command 22:10:06 bencord0_ | everything else crashes 22:14:00 TheAppleMan | vibrate would be good for notifications 22:20:03 kido | I'm quite sure the results are the same on dory 22:20:16 kido | I've never got test_hwcomposer to work on dory 22:21:49 bencord0_ | lol, but it should be an easier thing to debug. Also I want to explore the platform a bit more 22:27:54 Quit: SylvieLorxu (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22:55:14 Nokius_ joined the channel 22:58:33 Quit: Nokius (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23:00:33 Quit: lepage (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 23:17:46 Nokius_ is now known as Nokius 23:21:26 Quit: jreznik_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 23:44:34 bencord0_ | progress report: I've figured out how to get gdb and debug symbols working. 23:45:09 bencord0_ | Found that the crash is happening when our libhybris android_dlopen's /vendor/lib/egl/libEGL_adreno.so 23:45:44 kido | mhh reminds me of something 23:46:26 bencord0_ | but am now in a bit of a black hole, since I don't have visibility into libEGL_adreno. 23:46:48 bencord0_ | any tips? 23:47:03 kido | it looks like I removed it from the dory's /system 23:47:22 kido | and I remember having played with symlinks of /system/lib/libEGL.so 23:50:14 bencord0_ | Interesting, `test_egl` and `lipstick --platform hwcomposer` no longer crash 23:50:44 bencord0_ | still showing the asteroid logo :( 23:52:04 kido | do you have a complete strace? have you also checked the android's logs? /system/bin/logcat probably cannot be executed with the patched hybris but at least tailing /dev/log/* could give you some details 23:55:37 bencord0_ | strace has a writev(3, ...) to say that we have loaded libEGL_adreno.so, then blocks on a futex() 23:56:09 kido | right, I also remember this futex 23:56:20 kido | I've been blocked on it for a few days 23:56:39 kido | do you have init, logd and servicemanagerd all running correctly 23:56:42 kido | ? 23:58:59 bencord0_ | init is /system/bin/init (pid 238), logd is /system/bin/logd (pid 242). I don't have servicemanagerd running 23:59:15 bencord0_ | systemd and the journal are working 23:59:29 bencord0_ | systemd is my pid 1